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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All around a nice insanely fast phone. But it sucks it can't do macro with the tele lens anymore, and it's a bit expensive.
The camera is really good, but I don't understand why it splashes the white areas so much, my 13T Pro does the same?

And my Pet peeve: Get rid of the stupid glass back and replace it with a quality durable synthetic. It's both lighter and thinner and it's way more durable than glass.
The glass is fragile, so you need a glove for it, so most people never get that "quality" feel anyway, if you don't have a glove on it, glass is also insanely slippery and will try to escape your pocket first chance it gets.
1 drop on a hard surface even from just Β½ a meter can break the glass back.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think the point of using glass is to make it fragile, more expensive to replace and marketing it as "luxury".πŸ˜…

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree, but reviewers and consumers are falling for it, so I'm just trying to point out how utterly stupid it is. So hopefully at some point no reviewer will praise the "luxury" feel of glass, and consumers will stop falling for it.

The 13T did have a vegan leather option, but that's not much better, and is also made to have a "luxury feel" but low durability. That's just vulnerable to wear instead. I did consider the leather option, and then give it some sort of coating, but I decided against it, because I would probably just mess it up. That is why I include "durable" as a required feature of the synthetic material.

I curse reviewers for failing to see the advantages when the Galaxy S2 came out with a synthetic back, that was superior in every way to the glass back of the iPhone. But many reviewers complained that it felt cheap, completely forgetting to mention it was way more drop proof, and it reduced the weight significantly. They friggin complained that the lower weight also felt cheap!!!

Reviewers are sometimes morons, that should be kicked on the shin for their stupidity. πŸ˜‹

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Part of it (at least historically) was also related to wireless charging and reception.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's what mostly ended metal (aluminium) backs, there are zero problems with synthetics in that regard. So no need for glass.
OnePlus have stupidly made the Nord 4 with aluminium back, despite they claim it was hell to get it to work.
A completely worthless faux premium feature IMO. It ads cost and has no benefits. Except being slightly less bad than glass.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a Sony Xperia XZ1 and the aluminium finish on that is so good. Definitely my nicest feeling phone, though it is still slippery of course. In terms of modern phones I like the textured backs Motorola has been using. Not sure about their long-term durability but they are very grippy and comfortable.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I had the Motorola G9 power for 3 years, and used it without cover of any kind for all that time. And yes you can see some wear of 3 years of use on the back, it has also licked the asphalt a couple of times, but it still looks fine, and nothing ever broke.
1 slip out of my pocket while sitting on the terace with my 4 times as expensive Xiaomi 13T pro, and the back was broken.
So yes the Motorola synthetic back is definitely more durable than glass.
To have the cool look and feel, they could add a thin replaceable back cover like we used to have on almost all phones a few years ago.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So yes the Motorola synthetic back is definitely more durable than glass.

I was thinking more in terms of durability relating to general wear and age rather than short-term drops, scratches, etc. I've seen some images of people claiming their Motorola back wore out within months (could be a problem on their end, mine is fine after a year) and we all remember those older plastic devices with the soft touch finish that "melts" after a few years.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You can still get a cover, and still have the advantages of better drop resistance and lower weight and being slimmer than a glass back with cover.
I suppose the wear resistance is slightly better than your average cover. Mine looks OK IMO, but it doesn't look new anymore. I usually put my phone on surfaces like tables or whatever convenient when I sit down, and the edges where the back curves are clearly a bit matte, and there are a few scratches from the incidents. But there is no discoloration or cracks or anything that looks broken or is an eyesore.