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For the abolition of work. Yes really, abolish work! Not "reform work" but the destruction of work as a separate field of human activity.

To save the world, we're going to have to stop working! — David Graeber

A strange delusion possesses the working classes of the nations where capitalist civilization holds its sway. ...the love of work... Instead of opposing this mental aberration, the priests, the economists, and the moralists have cast a sacred halo over work. — Paul Lafargue

In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. — Karl Marx

In the glorification of 'work', in the unwearied talk of the 'blessing of work', I see the same covert idea as in the praise of useful impersonal actions: that of fear of everything individual. — Friedrich Nietzsche

If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves. — Lane Kirkland

The bottom line is simple: all of us deserve to make the most of our potential as we see fit, to be the masters of our own destinies. Being forced to sell these things away to survive is tragic and humiliating. We don’t have to live like this. ― CrimethInc

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by stabby_cicada to c/antiwork
 

I saw a fascinating tweet by BloomTech CEO Austen Allred the other day that stirred up a lot of thoughts here.

“Of the Silicon Valley founders I know who went on some of the psychedelic self-discovery trips, almost 100% quit their jobs as CEO within a year,” Allred said, adding, “Could be random anecdotes, but be careful with that stuff.”

Allred tweeted this in response to writer Ashlee Vance sharing that he’d been told by a venture capitalist, “We’ve lost several really good founders to ayahuasca. They came back and just didn’t care about much anymore.”

There’s some very useful information in those words. They reveal a lot about the insane mess our species finds itself in in today’s world, and provide insight into how we might find our way out.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Bad take in the title alone.

Seems very ableist to assume that cpitalism is caused by mental illness, I know many mentally ill people who are very much against capitalism and harmed by it.

Also, not surprised they would use the ableist word "Insane" in there.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I understand where this is coming from but is there a better term to refer to this?

Psychological trait that can emerge in any humans but is perceived (culturally understood) to be harmful by humanity at large and is solvable with therapy, medication and general education.

Both greed and hate follow this pattern. I do not believe in inherent evil, showing compassion as they are sick just makes nonjudgmental sense to me.

I am autistic myself have experience plenty of ableist rhetoric, but an example would be people assuming i can conform to their speech, avoiding their list of banned words while still expect me to communicatie coherently.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you are asking what I think you are asking then "harmful adaptation" might be a good way of putting it.

Yes, you humans are like that sometimes and I have seen how what you are suggesting can help humans.

Indeed I agree that they can, I do not believe in inherent evil either, in you humans or other species.

Autism is so cool, I too am autistic, in my species it is considered pretty normal to think and behave in such a way though. Yes, indeed, it is difficult sometimes, but it is helpful to learn what words harm and what do not so we do not do harm with them, I have found thinking of them like that rather than evocative words like 'banned' is more useful.

[–] degen@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure it's clickbait, but it's not inherently wrong. Some mental illness, not all. At the very least we should consider such greed and ruthlessness as unwell. If anything it's sympathetic and humanizing to a very unaccountable section of society.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, sure, I can see that.

Hmm, I'm not sure how a system founded on those things can accept those things as unwell.

I do agree to some degree, just not sure how to make it be seen by others or by the system itself, it would require destroying it in one way or another and getting these people help which can be difficult to do whilst the system still exists because most of them won't even ever admit it and nor will the system.

[–] degen@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's a bit of a chicken and the egg situation, I suppose, both encouraging and empowered by antisocial behavior. It's hard enough to convince someone there's a problem to begin with given the culture.

I do wonder how any transition could be made under an inherently opposed system, but that's also a key point of Marx with respect to revolution.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh and what's this, a fascist sounding video embeded inbetween the text?

Why is this so sadly unsurprising?

[–] stabby_cicada 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Here's the beginning of the "fascist sounding video" you mention:

The west is a dystopian wasteland of moral degeneracy.

Usually when you hear a white person talk about moral degeneracy it’s some wingnut denouncing LGBTQ rights or women’s reproductive rights or whatever, but that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about real things here.

The real moral decay of our society is illustrated in the way all mainstream political candidates can openly support war crimes currently being inflicted on people in the global south without being immediately removed from power. The way monstrous war criminals of past administrations can endorse a liberal candidate without causing self-proclaimed progressives to recoil from that candidate in horror. The way you can have the two viable candidates for the world’s most powerful elected position both pledge to continue an active genocide without instantly sparking a revolution.

The moral degeneracy of this civilization looks like living lives of relative comfort built on the backs of workers in the global south whose labor and resources are extracted from their nations at profoundly exploitative rates, while raining military explosives on impoverished populations who dare to disobey the dictates of our government, day after day, year after year, decade after decade, and acting like this is all fine and normal.

Sounds just like Hitler, don't it?

[–] dylanmorgan 2 points 2 weeks ago

Also, the moral degeneration that comes from making every human interaction boil down to a financial transaction.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, so clickbait title.

I see.

[–] Tiltinyall@beehaw.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1st two lines say it all. C'mon cope without feeding the demons.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

[Curious] What do you mean by "feeding the demons"?