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[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's weirder then that: The reason is: "It's god's plan that you became pregnant, and if you do not survive, that's god's plan too. We just need to trust the plan".

It's one of the reasons why I strongly believe religion is the source of all things evil.

[–] heliodorh@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how this never occurred to me but yes, this sounds right. Fuck this is terrifying.

[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

This is why so many "founding fathers" around the world, including the US, did not want religion to play ANY part in politics.

We should return to their plan on this point.

[–] AnalogyAddict@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not religion. That's abusers using religion to control people. Which unfortunately the most vocal make sound like that's all religion.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s abusers using religion to control people.

I always thought that was the entire point of religion.

[–] AnalogyAddict@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you don't know much about religion.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you don't know much about history.

[–] AnalogyAddict@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently not.

[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Islam says (for instance) that they have the final word of god. Thats pretty damning in and of itself. It leaves no room for anything else.

Christianity had been used through the ages to commit the most heinous crimes against humanity. They still do.

We should try a world without religion.

[–] AnalogyAddict@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And nothing heinous has ever been done without religion?

The faithful give over three times as much in charitable donations as the secular, and volunteer three to four times as often.

Plus, the religious have been persecuted for their beliefs as long as there had been human history, which is what you are proposing by suggesting that religion should be eliminated.

[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Tell me 1 good deed done in the name of religion that could not have been done without religion.

There are numerous heinous deeds done in the name of religion because it told them to do it...

People are people, they will do bad and good things. But religion always makes them worse because they put themselves above others.

The religious are only persecuted by other religions and currently religions are persecuting the non believers. (Christo fascism in the USA as a prime example)

And lastly, if churches would start paying their fair share of tax. No one will need to donate ever again.