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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are.

And they are also allowed to then say they smell something and bring in a dog that responds to their commands to establish a "hit" to justify searching anyway.

If its not the smell of weed, it will just be a different smell that they claim. The issue is your rejection of their search is functionally meaningless.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not consenting to a police search doesn't stop the search, and that's ok.

What it does is make the fruits of that search inadmissable, and may also enable you to sue them if the search was unreasonable or excessive, or the pretext violated your rights.

Even if you know you don't have anything in your car, verbally and clearly say that you don't consent to the search, and would like them to note that fact, but otherwise comply. Lots of people have been caught up by police planting evidence, and you don't want to be one of them.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ehhh no, that's not true.

You can say no, but if they pull in some other reason (such as dogs) to give them a meaningful excuse, they now have probable cause for the search.

Anything is now 100% admissible, you can sue but its not going anywhere, and they can still get away with planting evidence because they came up with whatever probable cause necessary to perform the search anyway.

Edited to add: BTW, if your car gets all scrsthed up from the dogs, that's just too bad.

Get a dash cam, front and rear ideally, which also grabs the interior. You do not need to notify police that they are on camera, while in uniform they are public personnel and are not subject to any expectation of privacy while carrying out their "duty". But it may be good to mention you have a camera in there, and no, you will not turn it off.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't mention your camera because they will helpfully turn it off for you or it will mysteriously get "lost" in evidence.

Let the motherfuckers find out at discovery. By then it's too late for them.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

That's why I say two and saying no you will not turn it off.

A cop fiddling with a camera after being told about it, or turning it off while "mishandling" their own body cam... Yeah that's a good reason to get things thrown out.

Added benefit of not making it to discovery by not having something planted in your car in the first place.