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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13145612

(edit) Would someone please ship some counterfeit money through there and get it confiscated, so the police can then be investigated for spending counterfeit money?

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not illegal. It's also not illegal for the police to claim it's criminal profits and seize it. The courts decided your money, (and other property), does not enjoy the same rights you do. So you have a right against search and seizure but your money and other property does not. This does three things. It opens your stuff up to be seized without a warrant, it makes it a civil case to get your stuff back, and you have to prove you're not a criminal and your stuff wasn't used by criminals.

It is absolutely unconstitutional on the grounds that it's a naked evasion of our 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights. But good luck explaining that to the guys with the guns.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why everyone should have guns. Steal my rent then, assholes!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know that feels good but you will not survive it. Don't shoot at the police.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it only works if everyone shoots at the police.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At which point we'll have disarmed them via political means anyways.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Neither will they. What's the point of surviving with them around?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You might get a couple but there's thousands of them.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More people like me need balls. Especially me. More importantly, I need to be armed and can't just go buy at a store because of them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By the time you have enough buy in to seriously threaten the cops in an area, you also have enough buy in to just elect politicians that will disarm them.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand just how outnumbered they are and how disadvantaged they are standing out so much.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No I know that. But you have to get X amount of people to be willing to do something. It so happens that amount is almost always enough to also enforce reforms and oversight on the police. Making violence unnecessary and counter productive.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tbh, I think it takes far fewer to kill them all. That said, we gotta have some kind of public safety system to replace them anyhow, so we may as well just whip them into shape.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nah, if you don't have that level of buy in then all you've done is start a war and divided everyone. You're forgetting that they get to recruit new people too. You need enough buy in that they couldn't replace their losses. Which is generally going to be a super majority.