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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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Some 17,500 fatbikes imported from China have been held by Dutch authorities over concerns about speed manipulation and safety risks.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I'm going full old man yells at cloud here, but here goes. I have no problem with E-bikes. They are great, green modes of transportation. Having said that, they are motorized, and imo basically an electric Vespa. To ride one you should be required to be licensed in the state. I see a bunch of 12 -15 year old boys ripping these through the park. Imo this is wildly irresponsible parenting, and going to cause a ton of broken bones and deaths. Kids treat these as toys and have 0 regard for the law. I have seen far too many near collisions when taking my kids to the local park. I think (don't quote me on this) you don't need to be licensed for E-bikes and they are treated the same as bicycles here. I'm just assuming because I've seen cops look the other way. When I was a kid, go-ped scooters with 2 stroke engines were all the rage among this age group, and eventually the law caught up and I stopped seeing kids riding them. Now it's the same with E-bikes. I get that kids in this age group want some kind of transportation to go hang out and all, but it's dangerous having underage, unlicensed people operating them.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Ebikes are regulated in the EU, they're nothing like Vespa. What you're referring to is an electric motorbike and already requires a license. What is needed is enforcement.

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Technically you are right.

The fat bike is considered to be a normal electric 25km/h bike (here in NL).

What changed (our view) on it was that some Chinese brands made it possible to raise the speed by doing a trivial change (either hardware or software) allowing speeds upto 45km/h.

In some extreme cases even higher.

Combine this with 12 year olds with soft skulls and you have the reason why the legal age is going to be raised to 16 years old and wearing a helmet.

And the old man in me screams: also require some training and a license for it.

And yes, I hate those things with a vengeance and have an opinion on everyone on such a vehicle. They are noisy, tent to break the speed limits and attract a certain type of people.

Old man signing off.

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