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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

What ever you happens, do not use this for commercial purposes. Virtual box is free and libre but the guest addons are not. They will find and bill you for every single person in your company. Not per active user but per employee. This has cost companies millions

Under Linux you can just use KVM. Gnome boxes or virtual manager should work fine.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago

I just looked all this over and, just to clarify, both VirtualBox itself and the Guest Additions are free and released under GPL3.

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ

What is not free is the separately downloadable “VirtualBox Extension Pack”.

As long as you stay away from the “Extension Pack”, you are ok.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And they DO NOT CARE if you don't actually use or install the extensions (unless something has changed, the guest add-ons are part of the free open source part, it's the extensions for things like USB 2 support that aren't free for commercial)

You can use it freely, by license, but they'll come after you anyway

I'm still pissed that they bought Sun, so many great products now controlled by those assholes... Virtual box, MySQL, Solaris, Java...

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only license that VirtualBox and the Guest Additions are even released under is GPL3. I do not even see a dual license.

What remedy are they proposing when they come after you? I am not sure I would even take their call or respond to their letter. If I did, I would just send them the GPL text, announce that we are complying, and tell them to pound sand.

I suppose it might be fun to tell them that I got it via IBM or Red Hat or something and to take it up with them. But I probably would not actually be dishonest about. As above, if I got a letter asking me to pay for their GPL software, I would just mutter “idiots” and throw it away. If they want to persist, it would only cost them money and I would continue to respond the same way.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

The extension pack does cost and is licensed differently from the core product

I did try that tact, more or less, but the fact is they kept harassing our licensing people and it just wasn't worth it so we removed every copy of it and used something else

And the truth is, Oracle can throw an ungodly amount of legal hassle at people if they want, right or wrong... Just because you're in the right and should win doesn't mean there'll be anything left of you on the other side, and they won't have felt a thing while destroying you out of capriciousness

They're pure evil and even their fully open source products should be avoided like the plague that they are. Hopefully someone will fork them at some point so we don't have to be tied to that shitty company, but until then, better to just leave them alone, because it's just not worth the hassle.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

I've just seen quite a few posts about companies getting audited by Oracle over Virtual box and Java

[–] Overboard8171@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago

Guest add-ons are free AFAIK. VirtualBox Extension Pack is not.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use the version of VirtualBox that has been modified to use KVM as the back-end. Do you know if it has the same problems?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hard to say. Just be mindful of blindly clicking "accept"

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I do not believe I have had to accept anything. I am installing it from the AUR and it builds from source. Pretty sure it just went straight into the UI the first time I launched it ( without a EULA ).

I will have to look into it. Thank you for the answer through.