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[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 52 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I was shocked when i realized that people that talk bad about the hulkster are entirely justified. he must be the single most vile person in wrestling buisness.-

and there a a couple of very shady characters

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vince McMahon has to be worse, but I agree with the sentiment.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I DID consider him, but I think he has some kind of thieves honor.

other side is sexual allegation stuff, and the sheer number of people he must have screwed over and under paid. i recently saw how DDP ended his career, it was sad. the baseball shadow guy who hang out it the rafters, same thing.

one thing he got right was, he gave brett hart the chance to hit him in the jaw, which brett hart did, and he went hard. maybe not as hard as brett could have, but still.

but maybe he believed brett would not do it.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wrestling is full of horrible people. Vince has already been mentioned but there is also Fitz Von Erich who drove three of his sons to suicide. Invader 1 who murdered Bruiser Brody. Grizzly Smith who raped his step daughter which is how Jake Roberts was conceived. Dynamite Kid who was a notorious bully who broke his step daughters legs for insurance money. Buck Zoomhoff who raped his daughter. Benoit who murdered his family. A good chunk of the Dragon Gate roster tortured a monkey for years.

And this is just a few. Wrestling is better in that regard these days, but there is still a lot of abuse going on to the point that it had it's own #metoo movement that almost entirely killed the British scene.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Benoit who murdered his family.

To be fair to Benoit, tests conducted his suicide showed that Benoît's brain was that of a 85 year old dementia patient.

Neuroscientist and former wrestler Christopher Nowinski argued that Benoit may have been suffering from repeated, untreated concussions throughout his wrestling career, ultimately leading to an unstable mental state. Nowinski was quoted as saying that Benoit "was one of the only guys who would take a chair shot to the back of the head ... which is stupid". Tests conducted on Benoit's brain by Julian Bailes, the head of neurosurgery at West Virginia University (WVU), showed "Benoit's brain was so severely damaged it resembled the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient". Other tests conducted on Benoit's brain tissue revealed severe chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), and damage to all four lobes of the brain and brain stem. Bailes and his colleagues concluded that repeated concussions can lead to dementia, which can contribute to severe behavioural problems. Benoit's father said that brain damage may have been the leading cause of the murder-suicide. A statement released by WWE described the findings as "speculative".

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_double-murder_and_suicide#Possible_motives

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

He was a piece of shit before that too. Plus you can say similar stuff about other wrestlers too.

[–] Master@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago

I Wouldn't say worst but he's near the top of the list for sure.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah i think that price belongs to vince.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

thats the fascinating thing about wrestling: you have so much to talk about.

yeah, I saw some interwievs, vince is far more scary than hulk, I mean, in a psyscho way.

I think he enjoys intimidating people. but thats just my personal impression from interwievs.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

He is basically a tougher and smarter Trump.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

After visiting America and seeing how much they celebrate assholes I'm less and less surprised. If you're standing in line and a car pulls up just to rev its engine as loud as possible, here in Europe we get mad at the fucking obnoxious asshole. Never ever did I want to disassociate from a crowd faster than when surrounded by Americans losing their marbles at seeing an expensive car be loud.

It's a tiny example, but it has to start somewhere. Glorifying shit is just wrong.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol, you are full of shit. I’ve never seen otherwise stoic European men light up with smiles and point like kids, than when an old 70s C3 Corvette let its v8 sing and went ripping through one of the streets in an Eastern European capital.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's cause it's an old timer. This would even make me smile. However if it's a new car it's just obnoxious imo, and my family, friends and colleagues seem to agree

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Some people like electric cars, some people like rice burners, some like euro engineering while others want a good old fashioned American V8. It’s all relative.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Eastern Europe? Maybe. I can definitely see some Bulgarians doing that, but that's a bit of a stretch.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t Bulgaria, but cool cars and trucks are one of the universal things that make most men instant bros even when they are from different cultural and ethnic backgrounds.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The thing is this wasn't "most men" or even "some men". It was a regular line for a mountain coaster. Anything from kids to their moms and dads and older folk up to like their 50s and all fucking cheered. I've never see something like this here. Here there's always at least one old cranky dude that shits on such people very vocally and the kids cover. 5 teenagers gawking and giggling or football fan types yelling isn't the same as watching a crowed of all ages go WOOOW! Like I'm already fed up with the heat and shitty long line on the fucking asphalt of all things and these regular ass midwestern families still find it in em to admire the rich asshole being a nuisance.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

It's nuts, isn't it? It's insane how much they celebrate celebrities. Even people like gotti for example, they cheered him on, waving american flags in front of the courthouse. I was at a comic con where the hodor guy was there at the height of game of thrones. They had a huge line planned, but no one was there. I thought, since no one was in line, it would be funny to get a signature for a friend of mine who was super into got. I walked to the very front and saw a sign of how much they charge for a signature and just laughed put loud and turned around. Then i realised that's what everyone did there. It's not that no one was there, all the people who stood around there were people who already backed out of the line. And if there was a line, no one would wait in line to see mr. Celebrity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I was shocked when i realized that people that talk bad about the hulkster are entirely justified.

He was a heel-turned-hero with a ton of extraordinarily positive media coverage following his heavy commercialization in the 80s. Can't say I'm shocked an 80s-era celebrity athlete turned out to be a bad guy, given the litany of 80s-era celebrity athletes that turned out to be awful, miserable people in hindsight.

he must be the single most vile person in wrestling buisness.-

He pales beside Vince McMahon himself.