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Raw Milk and the Collapse of Consensus Reality | how the "debate" over killing bacteria in milk is emblematic of the end of common ground (buttondown.com)

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I want my cream pasteurized, but I wish I had the option to buy pasteurized, instead of ultra pasteurized. I really value not getting sick, but the process that ultra pasteurized cream goes through makes it impossible to make clotted cream.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh boy, every time we visit the states I forget that the milk has that funky ultra pasteurised taste to it.

Having just normal pasteurised would be great.

Less sugar in your bread please too, thats also fairly grim.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have to buy "specialty" breads from bakeries because grocery store bread so frequently has the worst, softest, blandest texture.

As for putting sugar in everything, the thing I hate most is lemonade. Citrus without tartness is sugar water! I despise it!

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, either French Sticks or Sour Dough are generally safer options.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recently learned this from Tasting History.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I had clotted cream growing up and I went to buy some and wasn't surprised I couldn't find it. So I decided to make my own and that's when I realized all the cream on the shelves is ultra pasteurized! It breaks down the bonds in the cream and makes clotting impossible!

You have to bake the cream to make it clot anyway... so frustrating that this choice has been taken from me. I can pay an entire fortune to get it shipped to me, or I could find a "raw milk" person and I don't want to give them business. Also I don't want to get sick! So frustrating!

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah ultra pressurized milk makes shit foam for a cappuccino. The extra heat breaks down large sugars.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This, too! They've stolen the quality of cream from me. But I can't just go buy regular pasteurized anymore! And I don't want raw milk!

I just gave up on cream to be honest.