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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The civilian settlers who are taking Palestinian homes by force are an occupying force.

The attack by Hamas was not legitimate because it was against random civilians.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree entirely. But to them, Israelis are all 'settlers'.

[–] Schmoo 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not saying Israelis are guilty or deserved the attack on civilians, but Israel is a settler-colonial state. So is the US, but I'm not going to call for every US citizen with colonial roots to be forced off the continent (especially since that would include myself, my ancestors - including recent ones - were awful people who did awful things).

You can acknowledge that the state of Israel is an illegal settlement without calling for genocide, just as you can acknowledge that the US is founded on stolen land without calling for death to all Americans.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My point was that they regard all Israelis as culpable in the same manner as those currently constructing illegal settlements in the West Bank and shooting Palestinians, and use such terminology as a means of justifying their view of collective guilt.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Palestine is also a settler-colonial state, and so are the Ottomans. So is pretty much every sovereign nation in the world.