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The civilian settlers who are taking Palestinian homes by force are an occupying force.
The attack by Hamas was not legitimate because it was against random civilians.
I agree entirely. But to them, Israelis are all 'settlers'.
I'm not saying Israelis are guilty or deserved the attack on civilians, but Israel is a settler-colonial state. So is the US, but I'm not going to call for every US citizen with colonial roots to be forced off the continent (especially since that would include myself, my ancestors - including recent ones - were awful people who did awful things).
You can acknowledge that the state of Israel is an illegal settlement without calling for genocide, just as you can acknowledge that the US is founded on stolen land without calling for death to all Americans.
My point was that they regard all Israelis as culpable in the same manner as those currently constructing illegal settlements in the West Bank and shooting Palestinians, and use such terminology as a means of justifying their view of collective guilt.
This is their name for the attack by Hamas on a music festival, is that right?
Daily reminder that tankies aren't leftists.
stolen your homes and land
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private property should be abolished
Pick only one
That's not what they mean by "private property." Leftists are just so goddamn stubborn that they refuse to acknowledge the immediate confusion and use any other label.
Is there anything resembling a consensus on that? They're not interested in our toothbrushes as they say, but how about arable land? A machine shop? A work truck?
When they say "private property" they are not referring to the people's toothbrush, but the private ownership of production. Houses and such are "personal property".
They are also private property. How about my machine shop? My acre of land with a garden? A dairy cow?
That depends on the use. Are you using it as a productive business for profit or just something you like, maybe even for some side money. Are you hiring employees to work it for you? Once you make it a mode of production it's considered a privately owned means of production. If it's something you just have, it's personal property.
That's the gist anyway. These are actual, defined terms and not just things people throw around on the internet. If you want something more specific, doing a search will probably get a better explanation than I'm good at giving.
Holy strawman, Batman!
Please explain to me how defining the murder of civilians as a legitimate and legal attack for the crime of existing in a country while a particular ethnicity is anything but a call for ethnic cleansing.