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[–] kobra@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Am I crazy? I distinctly remember a military helicopter hovering quite low over protesters in a city and that very much didn’t feel like them telling trump to ‘pound sand’

Yeah, not crazy: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/pentagon-national-guard-helicopter-dc-protests/index.html

I appreciate the army’s attempts at trying to stay neutral but from my perspective they were already complicit in the trump regime and I have no faith that they would be any different if he gets another shot.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You're not crazy. The thing is there's a difference between the national guard and the regular army. The national guard is used to control protests all the time by state governors. In D.C. Trump gets to act as that governor. What Trump wanted was a regular army Infantry division with lethal weapons. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs actually got into a shouting match with Trump over the issue.

When he couldn't have that toy he tried to tell the National Guard to use live ammo without actually ordering it. He told them to use "all available means" to protect federal property. The National Guard however has trained extensively against using live ammo in protests since May 4, 1970. So they used every non-lethal method they knew, including the down wash of their medevac helicopters. Which the Pentagon later said not to do again as they consider that to be against the regulations for medevac helicopters.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Not American, I thought national guard and army are different because the national guard do stuff like security at disaster sites and riots which the army aren't allowed to?