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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He wasn't praising immutable systems, arch, or KDE. He was praising a Linux OS maintained by Valve. Many people, especially those not familiar with Linux, simply want to use a distro made by Valve regardless of the technical details.

[–] boredsquirrel 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What? No. He

  1. Wanted to configure stuff in a GUI (i.e. KDE, OpenSUSE with YaST does also a ton but often duplicated and distro-specific) and avoid needing the terminal for everything. GNOME is extreme here, as the settings are so restricted.
  2. Wanted to be restricted in the ability to break his system. This is extreme on SteamOS, but just as stable on other systems like Fedoras Atomic Desktops

Those were pretty much literally the things he said

[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good point about immutability and his comment about not wanting to break his system, i forgot about that when writing. But I disagree about Arch, snaps, those are technical details. Not sure which broken packages you're talking about or why him using modified Gnome matters.

The Universal Blue distros are cool though, though I've only briefly used their lightly modified main image.

[–] boredsquirrel 3 points 2 months ago

GNOME has very little settings.

I actually gave Fedora Silverblue a try, documented here. This was not beginner friendly at all and still lacked many features in the end.

So this is the issue when GNOME doesnt allow basic things, like editing desktop files in a guided way, showing package names etc.

Ubuntu has had broken packages for a lot of 3rd party software (when I last used it, a few years ago), for example SciDAVis which I used, and Libreoffice and more. Flatpak works without issues here. Beginners will not add Flatpak and have issues here.

I didnt say anything about Arch I think. He also doesnt care about that. Using Arch as base really just makes sense for Valve, as it is neutral, not legally restricted etc.

uBlue deals with the constant sync (and coordination) issues between Fedora and rpmfusion. When using Arch, this is not needed.