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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 177 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Tim Sweeney (crying): "There's no future in Linux gaming. No! Stop it! Stop enjoying the good thing that isn't from me!!!!"

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 71 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Tim Sweeney being so against Linux is baffling to me.

You'd think that with Epic battling against Apple and Google's mobile ecosystems that he'd think "huh, we really shouldn't put all our eggs in the Windows basket, what with Microsoft clearly trying to go down the locked-down mobile-like route for Windows", but he doesn't. He's just relying on Microsoft's goodwill (lol). It's crazy.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It just demonstrates to me that it was never about being locked down and was always about them taking his money

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why I deleted my Epic Games account when they got bought by Tencent. Though their support was not happy I was exercising my GDPR rights and it took a lot of back and forth with them before they finally deleted it.

[–] jay@mbin.zerojay.com 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Epic did not get bought by Tencent. Tencent owns 35% of the company's shares. Also, if you were trying to avoid companies that Tencent has any ownership/shares in, you would have almost no one left as they have bought shares in just about every major gaming company out there.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Doesn't matter to me if they didn't completely buy Epic. I'm out. And luckily I don't care much for major gaming companies any more. I'm sick and tired of the same uninspired garbage riddled with micro transactions coming out these days. Indie games is where it's at these days. At least those developers seem to love what they do and respect their players time. They also aren't afraid to try something new

[–] jay@mbin.zerojay.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tencent has ownership in a lot of those too.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

I am not scared of Tencent. I deleted my Epic Account based on principle. The Tencent buy-in was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 9 points 3 weeks ago

Right? When it started I felt it was a lose-lose situation: I might enjoy Apple products, but I do see the need to open them up at least a bit, so them winning would not be good. Epic winning on the other hand would give Epic something to stand on to criticize the greed of the 30% cut of Apple and Google, while apparently being fine with the same for EGS or consoles…

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How can anyone hate linux... It's just there for you... Not demanding anything from you... Just there... For you...

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

😮how can one write so cute

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Two reasons:

First, rather than just overseeing the most profitable game in the world, Sweeney tied his leadership at Epic to picking fights with Apple and Steam to try to muscle his way into a broader industry position. With how broken and barely functional the EGS is, it's incredibly obvious there is no way he can muster a team to do ANYTHING like Proton, so his solution is to go full throttle into pretending Windows is fine and not a dependency with existential risk.

Second, the bread and butter of EGS is Fortnite, and the developers at Epic are apparently completely unable to engineer any kind of effective anti-cheat which doesn't involve kernel level access. It is actually easier to save face by pretending the entire Linux ecosystem doesn't matter than to officially support Linux and then have to explain why Fortnite isn't available.

The ironic thing is, if he'd put the money the company wasted on exclusives and free giveaways into actual development, they could EASILY have solved all of these problems. It is fascinating, however, to watch Fortnite players dump literal billions of dollars into the company each year, just to watch it get flushed away into absolutely nothing.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The only people willing to put up with EGS' crappy performance are (a subset of) windows users

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Same reason poor people defend billionaires... the poor people somehow think they may get there. Tim fights Apple because it is an impediment for him to get to his own walled garden

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't even want to use EGS on Windows. Steam may be clunky, but Epic is unusably slow.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have so many games in my EGS library. Thank god for Lutris. Lmao

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

Heroic launcher is also an option for EGS on Linux.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago

The heroic games launcher is decent, works on Linux as well

[–] thrakkerzog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I can't find it now, but back in the late 90s Tim Sweeney tried Linux / KDevelop for a week and, if he liked it, would make games for Linux. It was on Slashdot if I remember correctly.

It went fine, but some features like hot code swap weren't available like they were in MSVC. I see that he's still moving those goalposts.