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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

This is not just modern age, this is how it has been for as long as our knowledge reach back. Women are less prone to violence than men.

Some say testosterone makes men more aggressive, but the problem is that the difference in aggressive behavior can be observed before sexual hormones kick in.

Another possibility could be social structures.

This article says there are 2 theories:
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/roots-aggression

One being male competition for reproduction, and the other social.

Problem is IMO, that it doesn't swing with behavioral studies of children, that to me seem to exclude both as the fundamental course for higher male aggression and tendency towards violence.
Seems to me it goes deeper, yes we do have competition for reproduction, but so do women, and women can be quite competitive and aggressive about it too, but generally in a less violent way.

A third more likely possibility IMO, is that in a society where mankind consisted of small nomadic groups, the men had a role of protecting the group, while women protected the children.
This role for the male, needs the male to be less prone to fear of consequences of violence, giving the ability to confront danger, where women protecting the children were probably more prone to evade danger.

So yes you could say it's based on a social role, but that role is not just learned, it's a genetically encoded social role, that is then reinforced by social structure and hormones. Obviously women have the ability to take the role if needed, because we are sentient beings with ability to learn traits.
Now there is a curiosity in that women have actually become relatively MORE prone to violence for the past 50 years. And the above hypothesis does not explain that.

As I see it, there must be new factors playing a role that did not exist previously. I suspect it could be an increase of man made hormone like chemicals in the environment, that influence our behavior.

[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago (10 children)

In your third option, why would the men protect the group and the woman protect the children?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Good question.
It's a thing that evolved among humans over millions of years. Men evolved bigger stronger muscles, because women are more vulnerable during pregnancy, and infants need their mother to survive.
Making men more available for the more dangerous task of protection and hunting.
So by the numbers, we evolved those roles, because it improved chances of survival for the group.
Males are more aggressive, because it actually help the group to survive short term attacks and hunting for food, and women are on average more cautious because that helps infants and the group survive long term.
It all boils down to survival of our ancestors.

[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they are vulnerable during pregnancy, why wouldn't the woman evolve stronger muscles? Then they could also make the men care for infants. I guess suckling would still be a woman thing but that doesn't take the whole day right.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Being pregnant takes lots of caloric energy, and is an inherently vulnerable time.

Not saying women are less, just saying calories are being spent, energy is being focused. Many pregnant women have accomplished insane thing and overcome incredible hardship during their term.

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