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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

doesn’t matter. Some dipshit from Pennsylvania is more important than 100 Californians.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Down ballot candidates still matter. There are several tossup districts in CA for congressional seats. Vote like hell!!!!!

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

More than 40 million Californians, you mean. Our vote effectively means nothing nationally.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pennsylvania is a large state, a vote there is barely worth more than a vote in California.

https://medium.com/practical-coding/whats-my-vote-worth-3ca2585b5d51

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

This doesn't take into account that it's a swing state

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My point isn’t about how many people there are to senators ratio. My point is that Pennsylvania is a swing state and California is going to go to the dems by 3 million votes or whatever. Our system makes it so that each additional vote in CA past the halfway mark is completely useless.

In a hypothetical, it is like 10 people live in CA, and 10 live in Pen. Pen goes for the Ds by 6-4 and CA 9-1. The extra votes in CA mean nothing. They should mean something. But they don’t. So the popular vote is not very useful for determining outcomes for dems because California is so big and the dems win it very easily.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

The extra votes in PA beyond the magical single winning vote are meaningless too by that logic. And there are paths to victory for both candidates that don't involve PA, so you don't really know who got to cast the special winning vote until afterwards. The "swing states" only exist because of states like CA that vote more predictably. The EC is dogshit because of the disproportionate voting power and because the winner takes all at the state level (usually), not because of some post hoc analysis.