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Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging service arrested in France (www.tf1info.fr)
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[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Guys, please move to something using TOR/I2P. I've been saying it for a long time now, but clearnet services are just asking to be taken down.

Unfortunately for Europe though, the US has a massive incentive for something like TOR to function appropriately, because their military uses it too.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What TOR or I2P chat services are there though? Contrary to popular belief, Telegram blew up because it was so well designed. It was winning design awards year on year back when WhatsApp looked atrocious.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago

Several of them could be ran over there, including Matrix.

Probably there are already some chat services. notbob.i2p should list them if so.

[–] Tazerface@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Briar is a messaging app that defaults to Tor. I have limited usage with Briar and have never used Telegram so I can't say how they compare.

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Simplex, Jabber, Briar?

I'm sure there's something over I2P too

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

SimpleX can be self hosted too right?

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need to. It connects over TOR and has no back-end servers that it relies on. Briar and Simplex have forward secrecy and are the only two I would personally use

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, seems SimpleX isn't the potential messenger I was hoping for.

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do you need to self-host it if it's decentralized?

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because I would like to be able to start a conversation on my phone and finish it on my tablet

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah, I get it. Jabber/IRC over TOR for you