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I mean, damn, I consider myself a centrist but that basically means “not a worthless shitheel asshole traitor in the bag for russia and against doing anything for the American people”. I think gummint should GTFO peoples lives (so fuck off with your shit about gay people and religion and abortion) and pay its fucking bills (so fuck off with your tax cuts and spending). And it’s fucking absolutely asinine that any mentally defective degenerate can get a goddamn semiautomatic weapon, are you fucking nuts?
So a Manchin Democrat?
No. I do not associate with either party, but vote strictly D because I’m not fucking insane. 20 years ago I could have considered voting for an exceptional R, but fuck all that. I think I’ve always been centrist, nowadays center left, but everything has shifted so far right that I couldn’t possibly associate with the republican traitor filth.
I voted Bernie in the 2020 primary.
I don't mean to offend. But I see you as a Democrat because the values you hold most-important land you in one party over another. In your case, 100% of the time. It doesn't mean that you have allegiance to the party or that your views match the party 100%.
Some people are single issue voters who ONLY care about 1 issue and identify politically from that. In the most extreme, a lot of religious folks literally don't care how evil their candidate is as long as they oppose abortion.
BTW, I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries.
I take no offense. I just do not ally myself with the party of Biden, who supports Israeli tyranny. I’m Jewish, BTW.
Haha some people can't helo trying to categorise you
You shoulda voted Bernie in 2016
I shoulda, and it woudn’t have made a difference.
It doesn't really sound like you want the government to get out of people's lives. Fair taxation, defending protected classes, and gun regulation are all very hands-on, and I agree that they're all important. The real thing right wingers mean when they say "small government" is "no regulation for corporations or states" so they can be as authoritarian as they want locally and the rich don't need to pay taxes. Banning gay marriage, controlling reproductive rights, and immigration control are not small government tasks, they're just tasks they want the authority to mandate on a state level since they know they'll never get the entire country on board.
What I wish more "centrists" would realize is that no one in the country, except anarchists, actually want small government, because they can't enforce control over the things they don't like without it. Rules for thee, not for me.