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Biden’s voice was strong and clear, and the crowd was far warmer to him as an outgoing president

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[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 208 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (34 children)

The debate was a one-off for Biden, and that's the way the cookies crumble.

Trump said the Dems were doing post-birth abortions.

Biden had a raspy voice.

Who was destroyed by the media?

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 112 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Howard Dean said “yeaaahh!” strangely that one time and that was it for him. It doesn’t take much.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because our media is shit

Biden really was visibly too old. But they’re also pretty good at ginning up issues literally out of nothing when they want to.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The media still haven't realized that they're a bunch of highly educated puppies. They write well and can form a compelling story, but at the end of the day they get distracted by, and tend to focus on, any flashy or squeaky object in their periphery.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure you're talking about two different groups of people inside "the media" there.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's confusing cause and effect. Howard Dean's speech was supposed to be a concession speech after losing the only early primary/caucus he was trying to win. He poured in all of his resources in the hopes of winning Iowa, underperformed expectations against a backdrop of dropping in the polls for weeks, and coming in third (with no real prospects for New Hampshire or South Carolina) basically made it impossible for him to have the volunteers, money, or press coverage to survive into the next stage of competing in bigger states with primaries clumped up together.

He showed everyone his plan of winning Iowa or going home, lost Iowa, and then gave some kind of rallying speech as if he had a plan to recover from that loss. He never did, and it wasn't the scream that killed his campaign. His campaign was dead before the scream happened. It's just that the scream was a particularly memorable way for a campaign to die.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Big pet peeve of mine when people attribute his decline to the Dean Scream. The scream was the final nail in the coffin.

[–] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but y'see - that's way less funny

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

people didn't like that scream?

That's a pretty rad scream.

EEeeYEAH-HyeeuuUH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwkNnMrsx7Q?t=50

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of fragile people out there who can't handle things like rad screams, dijon mustard, or women's right to self-determination.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

but that's the trifecta...

oh, you mean weirdos.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Back when the internet was fun, there was a flash game where you could play as the different presidential nominees, and Howard Dean's special move was the "Dean Scream" where he would scream flipping back and forth from left to right, and all the enemies on screen would fall down. Top tier.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

that sounds awesome. the Dean Scream.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Don't forget that we voted for Bush because people would rather have a beer in their back yard with him than with Kerry.

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