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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think at least part of it is due to weed. Both it being legalized and being more popular than it's ever been in non-legal states. At least for me, smoking weed kills my desire to drink nearly as much. Usually at parties or just hang outs it starts off with a beer or mixed drink or three, then someone breaks out the weed and suddenly I'm nursing my fourth drink for an hour.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Would we not expect sudden changes then? This is a steady decline, not indicating any sudden changes in laws or anything.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weed legalization hasn't been sudden though. It's progressed from medical to decriminalized to legal state by excruciating state.

As this graph is national, it makes sense that there wouldn't be a cliff because there's no particular date when we could say weed became legal.

Still not legal in any way here in texasss, and I assume we'll be the very last of the last to do so. But even here, it's so easily accessible that a good number of younger people I know tell me they prefer weed to alcohol. In legal states, that tendency must be much higher.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Do we have the same date for individual states? Perhaps some with and some without legal weed?

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Legalization efforts have been piecemeal throughout the country, and still less than half the states have direct recreational access. I'm sure it's a factor, but until we have federal recreational legalization, we should see a downward trend instead of a drop.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Weed has had a steady increase in popularity since like the 70s. I kind of agree, I'm sure there should be some cliff in the states where it was legalized, or if not my theory is bunk. It's only based on an anecdote tbf.

Edit: actually if we want any theory it seems pretty clear that the beginning of the drop off started right about at the market crash of 2008.

Also interesting that female rates stayed steady to the point that they've actually overtaken male rates.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Interesting. Personally, it doesn’t kill my desire to drink when I do decide to go on a bender. If anything, for me it gets easier to drink when there’s weed involved, as I just don’t enjoy most alcoholic beverages, taste wise. However, since access to weed got easier and I don’t have to hide anymore, when the occasion to get a buzz happens, I just prefer the weed high to being drunk, and I can skip the hangover.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's also in part due to easier access at an earlier age compared to alcohol and the rapid increase in quality. Weed is easy to grow, and even kids have been selling it to their friends in school for forever. But gone are the days of buying skunk weed off some dude you barely know. There's 13 year olds out there today smoking stuff of a quality that the hippies could only dream of.

Plus, when it comes to drugs, as a late Millennial, I knew a lot more kids who became heroin addicts as teenagers than alcoholics - and they started their drug use years before showing up on this graph. During Bush's presidency, heroin from Afghanistan became a lot more easily accessible on the east coast, and I used to say when I was a teenager that heroin was more popular with my generation because it was too awkward to go to the bar and see your friends' parents day drinking.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure how it all factors in but there's evidence that teenagers are using weed less: https://coloradosun.com/2024/06/26/youth-marijuana-use-colorado-legalization/

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The graph maker certainly seems to think so at least

the shift to cannabis and other alternatives is here