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[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 119 points 3 months ago (3 children)

To my knowledge, it's the first time in history that a non-nuclear power invaded and occupied territory belonging to a nuclear power.

So, that's even more dubious history Putin played a part in.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

A very nuclear power at that.

[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you consider Israel to be a nuclear power…

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Serious question: was Israel really occupied at any point in time during, this or past, post maybe nuclear power times?

I don't think a short term raid that's immediately repelled necessarily counts as occupation in this sense.

My Israel history is also very limited

[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know much history either. Maybe Sinai in the Yom-Kippur war (1973)?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sinai in the Yom-Kippur

I think that seems reasonable fair to count?

Edit: US Gov was convinced in '75 but that's only by the point they were convinced, and its quite possible it was prior.

Edit: just reading more, but this was a pretty cool event from the war

The Egyptian Army put great effort into finding a quick and effective way of breaching the Israeli defenses. The Israelis had built large 18-metre (59 foot) high sand walls with a 60-degree slope and reinforced with concrete at the water line. Egyptian engineers initially experimented with explosive charges and bulldozers to clear the obstacles, before a junior officer proposed using high pressure water cannons. The idea was tested and found to be a sound one, and several high pressure water cannons were imported from Britain and East Germany. The water cannons effectively breached the sand walls using water from the canal.

[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Fucking Britain lmao. Sets up Zionist Israel then sells water cannons to the Egyptians invading Israel. I’m sure it was private business but still hilarious.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As long as no one’s nuclear trigger fingers get itchy, I’ll be happy.

[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My preferred fictional outcome is Putin orders a full launch, but almost all the missiles just do a small fart in their tubes as no maintenance was done, and the ones that launch end up reaching escape velocity and disappearing because the people in charge of the silos had long since sold the payloads for yacht money...

[–] ji17br@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

This is the timeline I want.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the US has a launch on warning policy.

So even if every warhead Russia has is a dud, or doesn’t even re-enter the atmosphere, they’ll still be nuked into a fine mist of concrete and carbonized human dust about 20 minutes after we realize their bombs don’t work.

And then the rest of us get to live through nuclear winter.

[–] occhionaut@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Putin knows that if he's gonna press any big red buttons, it better be all of them because gloves are gonna be taken off against him.