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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago (2 children)

also "whatever that was on [twitter]"

perfectly dismissive. the campaign team is some of the best we've seen from democrats. they know how to speak to people without making it robotic and boring like democrats usually do. that's why this weird thing has been working too.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And I’ve been noticing it’s shifting how I think of these people. There’s a guy in the periphery of communities I’m a part of who has been a real creep to multiple friends of mine and is a right wing gun nut. Before this change in tone I’d been thinking “lunatic” but since I’ve been thinking “pathetic”. Not sympathetic pathetic, but like “grow the fuck up, you’re a grown ass man who can’t move on when a woman you like doesn’t like you back”. I’m not seeing him as any less dangerous, but before the fact that these types were losers was secondary to the fact that they’re dangerous but it’s flipped to me. They’re losers who make their issues everyone’s problems.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fascists love being feared; it makes them feel powerful. fascism is entirely based around male insecurity, which is why the need to put women in their place is so central to their world view. so pathetic insecure losers who can't deal with their own failures would take the deal of being feared but feeling powerful for it in a heartbeat.

that's why "oh no they're fascists and they're coming for us" doesn't work. a lot of people find that enticing. what they can't stand is being reminded how pathetic they are.

weird works especially well because a huge part of these people's narrative is how they're normal people and all those trans people and homosexuals and blue haired women and people who don't want to have children are degenerate and abnormal. so when you start pointing out that they're weird, they can't stand it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Exactly. And like, just seriously think about that desire for a second. What fucking losers they are to want to be feared. They need to grow the fuck up and learn to coexist with their fellow humans like the rest of us

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So refreshing if she wins and that country goes back to the old status quo of center right vs far right, but none from far far far right with dictator wet dreams.

No sarcasm, I'm just tired of orange man politics in my country news and lemmy feed. After hearing the same old jokes 100x they wear out.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

i think democratic voters are no longer satisfied with the old center right party. not only has the left gained some legitimacy among the public (at least compared to before which was nonexistent), the party has been very slowly moving in that direction as well.

to biden's credit, i would never think it was possible in the US to do what he did for unions, but he opened the door. and now the democrats are running on labor rights. the first solo appearance walz did was at a union. that is a massive shift to the left compared to just a decade ago.

it really is exciting. I'd say I'm on the edge of my seat but i wouldn't want to give Vance any ideas.