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For these voters, Tim Walz is a reminder of their dad - before they were lost to partisan division
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2024
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Who's shocked?
I AM shocked. The cropping of this screenshot is terrible.
Lol yeah dismiss facts because you didnt like the instance I have a second account on.
also lol keep lapping up the dem propaganda unquestioningly
Hexbear hypocrite hating on some guy who provides tampons to trans people.
If he won't stand up against the genocide his party supports and calls the national freaking guard on BLM protestors, a move so fashist it impressed even Trump:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502
then I don't know how hating on him makes me a hypocrite.
LOL an opinion article from Haaretz about American politics.
And, of course, you'll be fine denouncing that paper when it supports genocide as being completely unreliable as a source.
But when it agrees with you...
You have no idea that the context of citations matters do you?
a) it's an opinion article, I'm not linking it because of factual reporting, which indeed the Haaretz is unreliable on.
b) the point is that the Haaretz, which is trying to whitewash the genocide, is cool with Walz.
I would also cite far-right american newspapers if I wanted to showcase how the far-right likes someone and approves of their "silence".
Cool. Show us how the far-right in America really likes Tim Walz then (one single positive comment about an event that happened years ago is not enough to show that they like someone, sorry). Especially considering they were all pissed off Harris didn't pick Shapiro.
Why? For what point? Can you only be critical of people the far-right endorses or are you just trying to move the goal posts?
For your point. The one you just made and I replied to. You do read your own posts, right?
I made no point that would imply the american far-right endorses Tim Walz.
I see, so only the far-right in Israel likes him. The far-right in America hates him.
Well, since he isn't running for Vice President of Israel, sounds like he's a better choice than the people the far-right likes.
Israel is basically the US' puppet. They could stop the genocide at any point. Electing him and Harris means they won't.
In case you haven't noticed, there are only two choices that have any chance of winning and the team he's on is one of them.
So are you saying Trump and Vance would be better? Because it's going to be one or the other.
Also, remember that other post you made a couple of minutes ago where you said you were going to stop responding to me?
I'm saying don't cheerlead people like Harris or Walz. Don't portray them as cuddly dads or stalwart progressives when they aren't. Be critical of them and demand better.
Yet everyone here is trying to turn this into some lib-lovefest for Harris/Walz, dutifully portraying them in the best way possible, shouting down any criticisms, desperately trying to uphold the Burgfriedenspolitik. Almost everyone here has bought into the "it's the evil usurpers vs the forces of light" narrative when the truth is they're both differently colored masks for the same genocidal settler empire.
Yes. Everyone. I'm totally doing that right now. Look at me just lovingly lovely love on Tim Walz who I have said nothing about beyond him being one of two viable VP choices and suggesting that the American far-right doesn't actually like him.
Which is basically the equivalent of sucking someone's cock, am I right?
And I guess that whole stopping responding to me comment was a lie.
You are though, you really are adamant about upholding Burgfriedenspolitik within the dem base, I just don't think I will be able to explain to you what I mean by that within this context.
I am? Please quote me doing so.
Because I can quote you:
Seems to me someone has a bit of an honesty problem.
You haven't DM'd me so.... is this your request for the last post?
As for your adherence to Burgfriedenspolitik, it's demonstrated by your very first reply to me, dimissing my point because of the instance where I have a second account.
Once again, my reply to you had nothing to do with Tim Walz. I know you really want it to have to do with Tim Walz, but it was about you. Not him.
Unless you are Tim Walz. Are you Tim Walz? If so, buck up, little camper! You have self-esteem issues!
Thats my point! You ran nose-first into what I'm talking about when I say "dismissing my point" and "shouting down criticism"!
Your point is that I'm part of a love-fest for Tim Walz by not talking about Tim Walz? Holy fuck, almost 8 billion people love Tim Walz!
Can you really not see it? Are you trolling me?
No. I really can't see how I'm part of a love fest for someone I'm not talking about, but I am talking about you.
I guess you're having a love fest for Pol Pot right now since you're talking about me and not Pol Pot.
Best of luck to you then, you'll need it.
What exactly do I need this luck for? Pointing out other needlessly aggressive Hexbear users?
You'll need it for understanding other peoples point of view. Have a good one.
Understanding the point of view of a Hexbear user and thinking the way it's presented is ridiculously aggressive and full of people who come across as they have no joy in their life and live to be angry is a good way to present that point of view are two different things.
This is not about your point of view no matter how much you try to make it about that.
I don't like the instance you're on because it's full of assholes and you're not exactly making it easy for me to change that opinion.
It doesn't matter what justification you use to keep burying your head in the sand, you're still blinding yourself in a desperate attempt to safeguard some hope about the upcoming election no matter how false it may be.
In the midst of your righteous anger, you might have missed the point that I wasn't talking about Tim Walz.
No, you keep trying to deflect from his shitty record to me having a second account on hexbear. I just keep trying to have you take an actual look at the guy and not just blindly cheerlead whoever the dems put in front of you.
I am not a moderator in this community. Believe it or not, I am not able to shut you up or shut you down. You can post a response criticizing Walz in reply to every person on this thread and there would be nothing I could do about it.
Gotta love how people on Lemmy claim you're trying to silence them.
If you're worried about people deflecting from your claims, maybe your claims aren't very good and you should find some claims that people can't deflect.
?????
what are you even trying to say? Is it just word salad to get the last post in? Just DM me, you can have it.
Since you seem to have forgotten your own post, I'll help you out:
I can't deflect from anything you write. However, you are the one who has decided you don't need to talk about Walz anymore and just bicker with me instead. I didn't force you to do that. I can't even force you to reply.