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I automatically reject any arguments based on the "human nature". We know jack shit about our nature.
I reject any argument based on something supposedly being natural. Who draws the line? And nature is a bitch anyway.
I will argue that it is human nature to lie. Dismissing that would be folly.
Anybody that simply dismiss's an argument with valid standing is not worth talking to.
Anybody that simply asserts their statement to be true, is not worth talking to.
Historically, there have been countless statements about the human nature proved wrong. Some of them were even used to support the most harmful idealogies like sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia etc.
It's never about correctness, science knows better than simply referring to human nature.
So you are dismissing it is human nature to lie?
I agree! Too much justified with "human nature" when in reality it's a local cultural discourse and practice. However, I do think we can say some things about humans. Check out The Ethical Primate by Mary Midgley
Definitely adding it to my Todo list, thanks for the suggestion!!
And ideally, we have enough self-control enough to rise above the bad aspects of human nature
Accepting the ability of self-indentification is one of the few exceptions I would be willing to make.
I cannot support it logically, but I truly want to believe in it.