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On X, political commentator Ed Krassenstein, a frequent Trump critic, commented on the change of opinion about polling numbers among the former president's supporters.

"MAGA is breaking down. They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don't reflect what they want them to say," Krassenstein wrote. "It's funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up."

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Has been for 4 years now. It's so frustrating to watch play out in front of our eyes.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When he picked JD Vance he thought for sure he was going to win and almost certainly would have.

[–] 242@lemmy.cafe 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nah, I hate this narrative. I'm sure he thought he would win, but I think it would have been pretty close with Biden ultimately prevailing. We'll never know now. But saying Trump was a lock is ridiculous.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not after that debate where Biden looked like shit. You gotta remember how fucking little normies pay attention to politics. That debate was probably the first time most of them had seen Joe Biden in a long ass time, and he looked bad.

It would be as simple as “I’d better vote for the one who’s not gonna die in office”; which is honestly the stupidest take imaginable, but they have been defunding our schools for 60 years so what did you expect?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

You gotta remember how fucking little normies pay attention to politics.

i'm learning from my interactions from lemmy.world that this statement defines so much of what's wrong.

... they have been defunding our schools for 60 years so what did you expect?

i think this is one the reasons why and i also think that there are other just/almost-as-big reasons as evidenced by roughly 1/4 of my 1st-generation-american college-educated extended-family members loving trump; and somehow it's mostly the boomer & gen-x aged ones while the millenials and gen-z vote the other way.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I had and still do have a gut feeling it won't be close and Trump gets shit stomped. Probably just high on hopium, but while the media had been talking about his leads, I just got more vibes that he didn't have the same support and his voter base has been shrinking. Biden wasn't inspiring, but I don't think trump gained more supporters over the past 4 years, and I don't think Biden had lost many. If people show up and vote, Trump will lose. With the new spark in the Dem candidacy, I expect an ass kicking barring something happening over the next few months.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It’s still early to be optimistic but I agree with you. The whole country has seen and knows what Trump is, he is no longer an unknown quantity. He’s not an outsider fighting the system and a competent businessman like people thought he would be in 2016. The Clintons and their baggage are also out of the picture and dems are rallying behind the energy that Kamala has brought. There’s a reason why Trump and his camp are panicking.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

Anyone who thought Trump was a competent businessman had not been actually paying attention.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Honestly, the numbers through the years have shown that when people show up to vote, the Dems win. That's literally all it takes. Everyone going to vote.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I do think his base has grown with previously non-voting incel types. I have some young male relatives who paid no attention in 16 or 20 who are all in on maga now. The grievance shtick seems to really speak to them.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's the same token on the other side though. Plenty of new empathetic left voters too. My youngest brother and all his friends are that way.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Good. Make sure they vote

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dems really need to address what is driving people to the GQP somehow. There has to be something other then just hate motivating these people.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

It feels like they all expected life to neatly fall into place, and when it didn't they latched on to any narrative that externalized the blame in a way that gave them permission to lash out. Can't get a girlfriend? Must be the epidemic of miserable crazy cat ladies. Can't get a promotion? Must be all the DEI policies. The hate i think they use to shore up their fragile self esteem.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Even when he wins, he still casts doubt on the system. Just look at his whining about Hillary in 2017.