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[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

People who downvote instead of (or as well as) blocking it. Why the downvotes? You don't want to see a bias/factual rating of the source or you don't agree with the rating?

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't agree with the ratings. Fox News gets a "medium" which puts it on the same ground as a lot of actual news sites. There's no way that should get anything more than a "low" or something below that.

I can't tell how they're determined other than a singular brief mention of one thing, so to me it looks like they made the call based on one event they cherry picked. But really, it doesn't matter though to me to investigate any group that rates fox news so highly. I've had to suffer through their bullshit lies for years and find them responsible for a lot of the partisan damage we've seen over the decades. Medium? What the fuck does it take to get a low rating?

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The bot seems to use the medibiasfactcheck.com's API which should report 'mixed' factual reporting with extreme right bias.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

edit:

seems like there is more data available, the bot could report the MBFC Credibility Rating as well.

Questionable Reasoning: Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, Propaganda, Poor Sources, Numerous Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: TV Station/Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

edit2: I was looking for a fox rating by that bot, I wasn't able to find one "in the wild" but it seems like it does use the MBFC rating for the heading and does indeed classify fox as "Low"

Example from what I guess is the guys development teating posts: https://lemmy.world/post/18064796

[–] LibertyLizard -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people confuse Fox’s talking heads/opinion content with their newsroom. The actual news stuff isn’t that bad, it’s the pundits who are just outright liars.

It doesn’t help that they don’t do a clear job of distinguishing these, but they are distinct in quality.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Fox News is an "entertainment network" per their own lawyers, so I will never take them seriously.

Plus regardless of content, they played a BIG role into the whole "elections were stolen" bullshit.

[–] LibertyLizard 2 points 3 months ago

Again, I believe that argument was made regarding their opinion content. But feel free to correct me if I’m misremembering.

The company as a whole is trash but they do some OK reporting at times. If you recall there was a major controversy in 2020 because their newsroom accurately called the election for Biden fairly early and their viewers went apeshit.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I haven't down voted it, but I have seen people questioning the credibility of the bot's creator. Maybe has something to do with it. I didn't care enough to read the details myself though.

edit: after actually looking at the bot provided info for the first time rather than scrolling past it, I think it should also try to include info like who owns the news outlet and what else they own.

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The creator says that they use the mediabiasfactcheck.com's API and looking at their page it doesn't seem like that info is readily available but maybe they will take a feature request to try to add that info.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/abc-news/

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's just noise to me. Though I don't downvote it, I enjoy watching it being downvoted.