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Don’t You Know Who I Am?
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Fuck all that noise...
One racially motivated act (say hitting someone because of their skin color) is not any more or less racist depending on the race of the victim. If you believe that, it is by definition a racist value you're holding.
There's a difference when it comes to contextual, social and historical factors. Like the word cracker is insensitive but doesn't carry the hateful connotations and discrimination that the N-word possesses.
But anyone trying to say it's more or less appropriate to hate on any single group is just demonstrating their own implicit and explicit racial biases.
This is only true if you don't think the severity of the damage correlates to the severity of the racism. If we go with your definition, then all racism is equivalent, and we can't tell any apart. That seems like an arbitrarily limiting and useless way to think about it. Why would we not want to be able to compare how severe each racist act is?
This is only true if you think all groups are equally strong and equally oppressed by each other and the system. But if that's not the case, then I would say it's OK to be mean to the ones who are stronger or less oppressed. It's a means of coping with the inequality. Just like we normal folks like to mock billionaires, while they're actively causing suffering.
If one person engages in a racially motivated attack on another individual, it is not any more or less racist if the victim was black or white.
If a man was walking down the street and was beaten to death by an angry mob based entirely on the individual's race, is it less racially motivated if the victim was one race over another?
Are we punishing people for the sins of our ancestors? Does historic racism against one race justify mistreatment of another thru a retributivist mindset?
This backwards hypervigilant, hypersensitivity and hypocritically encouraging implicit and explicit racism as morally permissible retributivist actions needs to stop. Racism is racism. We need to respect each other as equals if we want racism to stop. You're calling for unequal treatment/enforcement of social policies based on one's race. Fuck that noise.
Ok, so you're conflating the terms "racist" and "racially motivated". Yeah, if you do that, then your point makes sense.
Two different actions with different impacts can be different amounts of racist, but both could be equally racially motivated. For example, it's way more racist for someone to want to murder a black person than it is for someone to be afraid of a black person and cross the street when they're coming. Both are equally racially motivated, but different amounts of racist. See the point? More impact = more racism.
And if we can agree that it's the 'impact' that makes something more/less racist, then we can see how a white person saying X and a black person saying X could be different amounts of racist, depending on the impact. If a Latino would call a white person the N word, that's less racist than calling a black person that. Right?
I couldn't tell you. All of the racism that's present today, and still ongoing, means we don't know the answer to that. Find me a place where this happens and I'm happy to learn.
It’s reductive to take that as saying “it’s more appropriate to hate on white people”. They worded it a bit poorly imo but the analogy they’re responding to is still crappy. There isn’t an issue of black women assuming white men don’t know the origins of RNA, but there is an issue of men assuming women don’t know anything about “nerdy” things like film. Obviously they assumed wrong with Ed Solomon, but the analogy is still in bad faith because it’s wouldn’t be for the same reason.
This specific situation described in this post is an issue of "women assuming that the man offering his take on a subject was ignorant about it and driven by machism" (as that's exactly what they accused him off when they called his offer one of "mansplaining").
(In fact what makes this a bit of a story is that rather than just saying "No thanks", they instead explicitly accused him of offering an ignorant opinion driven by sexist)
Surelly both the "men assuming women don’t know anything about 'nerdy' things like film" and "women assuming that men offering their own take on a subject are ignorant and driven by sexism" are equally wrong?!
How is instantly presuming such bad things about other people purelly on the basis of the number of Y chromossomes they were born with, less sexist if its acting/voicing prejudice (quite literally: they prejudged the other person) from XX persons towards XY persons than if it is from XY persons towards XX persons?
It's kinda the whole point of this whole comment thread: prejudice is prejudice and its discriminatory to excuse it for some people but not for others purelly on the bases of some having being born with certain characteristics and the others not.