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Don’t You Know Who I Am?

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[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If one person engages in a racially motivated attack on another individual, it is not any more or less racist if the victim was black or white.

If a man was walking down the street and was beaten to death by an angry mob based entirely on the individual's race, is it less racially motivated if the victim was one race over another?

Are we punishing people for the sins of our ancestors? Does historic racism against one race justify mistreatment of another thru a retributivist mindset?

This backwards hypervigilant, hypersensitivity and hypocritically encouraging implicit and explicit racism as morally permissible retributivist actions needs to stop. Racism is racism. We need to respect each other as equals if we want racism to stop. You're calling for unequal treatment/enforcement of social policies based on one's race. Fuck that noise.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If one person engages in a racially motivated attack on another individual, it is not any more or less racist if the victim was black or white.

Ok, so you're conflating the terms "racist" and "racially motivated". Yeah, if you do that, then your point makes sense.

Two different actions with different impacts can be different amounts of racist, but both could be equally racially motivated. For example, it's way more racist for someone to want to murder a black person than it is for someone to be afraid of a black person and cross the street when they're coming. Both are equally racially motivated, but different amounts of racist. See the point? More impact = more racism.

And if we can agree that it's the 'impact' that makes something more/less racist, then we can see how a white person saying X and a black person saying X could be different amounts of racist, depending on the impact. If a Latino would call a white person the N word, that's less racist than calling a black person that. Right?

Does historic racism against one race justify mistreatment of another thru a retributivist mindset?

I couldn't tell you. All of the racism that's present today, and still ongoing, means we don't know the answer to that. Find me a place where this happens and I'm happy to learn.