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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes they run out. Or are 2 hours away. Or are in a bad part of town. There are tons of reasons why someone would be desperate enough to steal food.

Nobody’s encouraging it. All we’re saying is this: as a direct result of the deficiencies inherent to our society and the socioeconomic structure it perpetrates, some people need food but can’t get it through legal means. Categorically refusing to make an exception for exceptional cases is implicitly saying that those people deserve to die.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] explodicle@local106.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Inflation was never natural. What's happening now is its logical result, not an exception.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, sorta.

You can say that the War In Ukraine was not natural (definitelly man-made and entirelly avoidable) and the imposition of Sanctions on a oil producing nation was not natural (it was a choice, even if the only reasonable one), plus all the increase in the money supply and decrease in the cost of debt from ZIRP which devaluated money (hence inflated the currency-denominated value of things) were also not natural.

However the effects of those things were natural consequences, and that includes Inflation, which came in via increased energy prices, increased realestate prices (cheaper debt and the rush up the yield ladded of "investment" money pushed those up) and just the straightforward devaluation of money.

However it seems that most of the inflation, at least beyond a certain point (this stuff was already happenning before the War) was not from the natural effect of those other things but rather companies taking advantage of the situation to, in a cartel-like fashion (not actually a Cartel in legal terms because they didn't get together and agree to do so) pumping up prices in tandem to increase profits.

[–] Maya@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course inflation is natural. Unless we are all gonna share the same $100 forever it has to happen at least without some sort of perfect foresight so the correct amount of money can be issued.

What isn't natural is somehow people are convinced they should be held hostage by business.

When somehow we are convinced taking out a loan that you have to pay on for eternity (selling stock) that is not natural.

When somehow limited resources (our time) has less value then an unlimited resource (money) that is not natural.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like you're saying why you think inflation is a good idea, not why it's natural.

Why not share the same $100 forever? As the value of $100 increases, we can just divide it up into smaller and smaller bills.

We should be trading our limited time for another limited resource, not an unlimited one. At the time of the trade they're always equal, but labor in the past should be worth more than that, not less.

[–] Maya@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dividing $100 into smaller and smaller pieces is the exact same thing as making money which causes inflation? If you divide it into 200 parts of fifty cents each and you only need 199 then someone has an extra fifty cents.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 0 points 1 year ago

It's not the same thing because each person's percentage of the total supply doesn't change, like it does with inflation.

[–] huge_clock@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody’s encouraging it? Can you not see the meme you are commenting on?

Do you understand the difference between being amused by a meme and having a nuanced stance on the topic the meme is addressing in real life?

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Do you take all memes seriously?