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Openstreetmap for Canal Boaters (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by abeorch@lemmy.ml to c/openstreetmap@lemmy.ml

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For some reason despite not owning one I have alot of interaction with Canal Boaters.

They are always interested in information about places and services along canals and I was trying to think of the best way of explaining how the contribute and use Openstreetmap

Of course contributing is easy - I just recommend mapcomplete.org, everydoor app, and street complete (less so as its road related)

And then I recommend an App like OSMAnd to use Openstreetmap - But for Canal Boaters specifically - Is there any way they could use layers or searches, any tips, tricks or Apps specifically get information that would be useful for them or be useful if in a canal boat?

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[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you have a lot of interactions with canal boaters, it might be interesting to create one or more custom layers in mapcomplete. Give MapComplete Studio a shot (but keep in mind that it is not exactly user friendly, let me know where you get stuck and I'll try to fix it).

If you have created one or a few layers you like, let me know and I might include them in the production version of MapComplete.

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

@pietervdvn @abeorch @openstreetmap
My first attempt with some guesswork as to what would be useful: fuel, water points, black water disposal, toilets, showers and other drinking water.

https://mapcomplete.org/theme.html?z=5.7&lat=53.928919489879775&lon=-4.1114698642605845&userlayout=https%3A%2F%2Fstudio.mapcomplete.org%2F89098%2Fthemes%2Fnarrowboat_amenities%2Fnarrowboat_amenities.json&userlayout=https://studio.mapcomplete.org/89098/themes/narrowboat_amenities/narrowboat_amenities.json

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, very good first attempt! I'm reviewing the layers you made (esp. fuel station and sanitary dump station) and they seem very well done!

I've spotted a few small mistakes, but nothing fundamental.

It would IMHO be even more interesting to have a layer about the canals themselfs, to indicate what types of boats (e.g. small boats, kayaks, ...) are legally allowed to and physically possible to go over a certain waterway; that would be great!

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

@pietervdvn @openstreetmap Thanks.

I did think that a background map that emphasised water would be good, I didn't think of trying to get MapComplete to pick out the navigable ways.

Marinas, chandlers and boatyards would probably be good things to have. A (read only?) lock layer for context maybe.

I think mooring areas would be good, but it seems these are normally done on lengths of way, but MapComplete would be limited to adding points (AFAIK).

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

MapComplete is indeed limited to creating new points, but it can modify attributes of existing ways. I'm assuming that most navigable waterways are drawn, but not all necessary attributes are known, where MC could help.

And: tackle it one layer at a time :)

[–] abeorch@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah so I started with this and got stuck. I was struggling adding existing layers which already had relevant features.

Maybe we could chat and see if I can have another go.

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@abeorch @pietervdvn @openstreetmap

I had a go but haven't finished it. The link should be kicking around in this thread somewhere.

The major thing I thought would be good but haven't included yet is chandlers because the tagging for that is a bit confused.

Also boatyards I guess.

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 1 points 2 months ago

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Chandlers added read only as there's no real consensus on the best tagging, no repair facilities on the map yet.

https://mapcomplete.org/theme.html?userlayout=https://studio.mapcomplete.org/89098/themes/narrowboat_amenities/narrowboat_amenities.json&test=true