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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. I would probably have to just rewrite the entire movie.
Or trilogy
I thought the first one was alright. The second one seemed to have it's moments but was overall underwhelming. Rise of Skywalker was so bad I couldn't even finish it. It was a good year before I could force myself to sit through to the end... I think my breaking point was when I realized every time they got into trouble Rey would suddenly "discover" she had a new superpower that has never even been mentioned before
How was the first one alright? Not attacking, just curious.
To me, it came off as just a more infantile version of A New Hope.
Example 1: Darth Vader gets pissed and dudes get choked to death, even through video chat. Kylo gets pissed off and makes life hell for some IT guy by trashing his computer.
Example 2: Why build a moon-sized space station that blows up one planet, when you can make a planet-sized space station that can blow up 7?
I mean, I get the appeal of the explosions and effects and stuff, but in terms of story, it was just the same, but with none of the payoff of the original story. They even tried to steal the big reveal of the relationship between Vader and Luke by revealing the relationship between Kylo and Leia/Han.
Edit: And I totally agree with the Rey issue. I guess that's called a Mary Sue in writing.
By "alright" I suppose I mean it was the least objectionable of the three... I didn't have any major issues with it other than it was kind of boring and seemed like it was a little too reliant on nostalgia instead of doing anything that was really new or innovative in any way. I watched it, I didn't hate it, but I haven't felt any great urge to ever watch it again.
Got it. Thanks for the reply. Ya know, thinking back, I have to agree. Of the three newest films, it was the most enjoyable. But oh man, I almost walked out of the theater when they were having to arch laser shots in space like there was air resistance or something. On par with the snake in Harry Potter that winked. Snakes don't have eyelids!
I'd rewrite the ending of The Force Awakens so that they don't destroy Starkiller Base at the end. Instead they'd just damage it heavily or somehow disable it. A victory for the rebels, but now we have a story for the next movies.
Then the second movie would then have to be rewritten to be about the First Order trying to repair Starkiller Base, perhaps they need some rare resource or something, and the rebels are trying to stop them. We get a bunch of space battles and AT-AT walkers and stuff.
The third movie would then also have to be rewritten. The First Order has got the thing working again, so the rebellion would get to destroy it for good this time. More space battles, lightsaber fights, and big explosions.
Really, the problem the sequel trilogy had is that they didn't know what to do with it. The Force Awakens ended up as a soft reboot of A New Hope, which is why we got a third Deathstar. But then they blow it up at the end of the first movie, which puts them in a bind as now they really don't know what to do with the next two movies. What now, a fourth Deathstar? At least this would give some sort of overarching story for the trilogy, rather than the making-it-up-as-we-go mess that we ended up with.
Yeah, it's quite clear no one planned out a story arc for the trilogy and it suffered greatly because of it. I really like The Force Awakens and I bought The Last Jedi for Β£1 to almost complete the set. I'm waiting to find Rise of Skywalker in a charity shop for 50p to compete the set, don't know if I'll watch it again though. π