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Trump Allies Sure Are Talking A Lot About Civil War (www.rollingstone.com)
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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You’re assuming that Project 2025 won’t succeed at firing all the sensible military leadership (like all of it down to the O-7s) and replacing them with True Believers.

In Ukraine in 2014, they had retired military people coming out of retirement and joining up with the protest movements and kind of showing them what to do, in the semi-shooting war… would it play out that way in the US? Or some other way?

I’m a little bit exaggerating what level it might realistically get to, and I sort of share your optimism on some level, actually… but it’s fucking terrifying to be in a position of depending on the military leadership to be the backstop against the takeover.

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but I don't personally feel it would get to that level before courts or congress got involved. Congress has to approve appointments for senior leadership. The UCMJ has regulations related to dismissal. And if they fire all competent command and replace them with generally inept cronies...there would be a very big block of very angry and very competent ex military leaders to contend with.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah. One thing I very much like about the US military is that the high levels of the brass have a pretty heavy sprinkling of people like Mattis and Milley who are pretty heavily pro democracy and not shy about speaking up about it.

Idk what happened with Mueller and just leaving to the hands of fate, but I feel like Milley in the analogous situation as regards a new civil war would just suit up and say yo we’re starting the Free ~~French~~ US forces, get the fuck on board loser, let’s go