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“What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating. The images of dead children and desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety, sometimes displaced for the second, third or fourth time,” Harris said. “We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering. And I will not be silent.”

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's no way she hasn't already promised to keep sending Israel free weapons on our dime. Israel is one issue where both parties' positions are 100% the same.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The US need Israel's Iron Dome short range defensive technology, to complement mid-long range US defenses.

Meanwhile, everyone needs Ukraine's cheap drone warfare expertise, particularly in the sea drone area.

You may think it's "on our dime" or whatever, but it's really a quid-pro-quo in both cases. Uninvolved countries, will have to actually pay for it.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You may think it's "on our dime" or whatever

I don't know why you put this in quotes when it's literally on our dime, and not only that, we're watching the impoverishment and neglect of our own people on a historically vulgar scale in service to this war machine and genocide.

But, we're a warmongering nation. People will always make excuses.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, for starters I'm not from the US, so it's not my dime 😀

we're a warmongering nation

The moment the US stops being one, nobody will take it seriously, tanking the USD. Keep in mind the US has little to offer other than intimidation: fintech is only worth as much as someone wants to use it, IP is worth as much as others respect it. The US have barely any exports that can't be sourced elsewhere, making US's IOU money almost worthless without a military backing it with a "like it, or else".

Procuring weapons deals, is one of US's topmost priorities. How US citizens decide to distribute the spoils of war among themselves, is an internal matter.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, for starters I'm not from the US, so it's not my dime

That explains a lot. It must be even easier to support war and genocide when you're neither voting nor paying for it.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago

Try again. I don't support war or genocide, the Spanish government I voted for, has already recognized the State of Palestine, has been sending aid to Gaza for a while, and is charging Israel a good dime for its weapon purchases. Hey, now that I think about it... is that your dime we're getting from Israel? 😘

Anyway, the collapse of the USD is likely to cause many wars all around, until the world settles into a new status. I don't really like that either.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago

This isn't beeing very nice.