thepianistfroggollum

Fuck off with your anti car bullshit. This isn't the time or place.

There seem to be a few people who have unfortunately believed the anti-vaping propaganda.

If you think that vapes are more harmful than smoking in any way, this is for you. I've been following the actual science on this for almost 15 years and have peer reviewed the studies.

Every single study in the US that produced negative results either had methodologies designed to only produce negative results, or the negative results were orders of magnitude lower than OSHA levels, or even lower than atmospheric levels.

The only things the anti-vaping campaigns can rely on is bad science and purposefully misrepresenting study results. Well, that and the "think of the children" bullshit.

There's also a belief that nicotine is highly addictive and very harmful. This is incorrect. Nicotine on its own is actually less physically addictive than caffeine (shorter withdrawal period), and actually has heath benefits.

Now, to the "think of the children" bullshit. For one, children can't legally purchase nicotine in most countries. If you want to say the flavors attract children, then we need to ban any sort of flavored alcohol. Also, children can buy as many energy drinks as they want, which are actually harmful to them.

The real reason that vaping is being demonized is because the state governments are losing tobacco tax revenue faster than they planned, and they've already budgeted the money they expected to get. But, instead of imposing a reasonable tax to fill the gap, they tried to make a 30ml bottle of eliquid (normally ~$10-20) cost upwards of $100.

Don't bother asking for sources, because I won't Google for you. I am educated on the topic, and this isn't a formal debate.

I will answer any questions you may have, though.

Nicotine by itself is less physically addicting than caffeine, and no more harmful. It's the 9000 other chemicals in cigarette smoke that increase the addictive properties and cause cancer.

A large part of the reason smoking is so addictive is because it integrates into every part of your life. This is why vaping is by far the most successful method of quitting smoking.

Also, in the US it's illegal to sell nicotine of any form to anyone under 21. But kids will always do the things we tell them not to do exactly because we tell them not to do them. I'd 100% prefer a kid vape than smoke.