rosemash

joined 8 months ago
[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Is it the same for downvotes?

Yes

It's honestly a big downside. I can see it being useful for admins on their own instances to detect brigades or vote manipulation coming from different servers, but I don't like that they are public, because it could discourage people from voting honestly on topics where they could potentially be harassed for engaging

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

And anyone can be an admin. You can just make an instance and appoint yourself an admin. So in practice it's not limited to anybody.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

It's just an option on every post

https://i.imgur.com/j5ZB8vi.png

On the regular Lemmy UI you can see the option if you're an admin (on any instance, not just the one the comment was made on)

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

No, it's on Lemmy too

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 19 points 8 months ago (13 children)

The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what

The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don't like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 8 months ago

It's just what everyone used in like 2016. Skype for text, and sometimes teamspeak for voice. Discord's marketing was all about having them both in one service.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

they just copied IRC without understanding why it was that way

I believe it was clearly inspired fully by Slack, rather than IRC. I don't think there was anything they copied from IRC specifically, and nobody in their target audience (gamers) was using IRC at the time discord blew up, so I don't think that was their intention

But I agree it is a silly use of the word "server" to refer to groups of channels. Internally Discord actually calls them guilds. Server might also be gaming lingo they were targeting (so people would think of joining a Discord server as akin to joining e.g. a Minecraft server)

I actually like the top-level server structure. A community has user roles which control access to certain channels, the permissions can be either channel-specific or server-wide, and the roles are hierarchal with permission overrides specific to users. It makes it possible to have public chats with tens of thousands of users not be overcrowded, and have content organized into different spaces (memes, media, help/support, general, etc.) which just couldn't be done on Skype, which was all people in this demographic were using at the time. And the idea of hierarchal management of permissions and roles allowed moderation of large communities, so everybody moved due to convenience.

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Discord servers aren't meant to be chats, they are meant to be large communities, like subreddits. Discord is a hybrid between a chat app and a social media platform for meeting new people and joining large communities (that's the intention of the design, at least)

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Discord's UX is fantastic, thats part of the reason we all migrated from Skype. It's just a recent redesign they made to their mobile app, that is most likely what this meme is referring to

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 6 points 8 months ago

There was recently an update to the mobile app that was very poorly received

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It probably helps them stay upright so they aren't disoriented from the swaying of the ship

[–] rosemash@social.raincloud.dev 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm new to lemmy, so I could be missing some context, but you arent making a very good pitch with this post. Java is a downgrade from rust, and unless I'm reading wrong you seem to suggest they are planning to deliberately introduce new features into this java implementation as a way to break up the network on purpose, which would make lemmy instances obsolete, and you sort of present it as a good thing and suggest its a deliberate political move on behalf of sublinks. But you didn't even explain in your post why lemmy exactly needs to be replaced. So you are calling lemmy toxic, but already this new project is just seeming very underhanded and manipulative by its very existence. As a user who just wants a better reddit alternative, reading this post makes me feel like I stumbled upon a project motivated by a grudge (just based on the way it's phrased) and you leave me more inclined to speak out against it than endorse it, since it seems like an attempt to divide the network, and I've seen what happens to divided networks where instances have different features and refuse to work together (just look at XMPP). So unless you can explain what is wrong with lemmy's development or roadmap I think everybody reading this should be very skeptical of sublinks and cautious of the threat posed by projects like this in general.

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