What?
No that’s exactly what they’re for. But there’s no proof in that tweet of who put them there
hassanmckusick
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White phosphorus munitions can legally be used on battlefields to make smoke screens, generate illumination, mark targets or burn bunkers and buildings. Because it has legal uses, white phosphorus is not banned as a chemical weapon under international conventions, but it can cause serious burns and start fires.
You just can't use it to hit people (I don't think you're allowed set buildings on fire to kill people either)
And Israel is on thin ice because they used white phosphorous before in '09 (not claiming they used it illegally because I can't find a source that will say one way or the other)
The IDF said that just like they said there were a bunch of decapitated babies before they walked that lie back
Nope, you can’t.
Maybe I'm explaining myself poorly, maybe you disagree. To clarify to anyone still reading I am not trying to absolve anyone of murder. Hamas did commit terrorism as defined in the dictionary.
But should the US be the entity in charge of making that distinction? Has the US ever used that designation inappropriately?
As an American I think Americans are particularly brainwashed about the term after the War on Terror and tying the word so heavily to racism. Terrorists are monsters but that rhetoric allowed us to dehumanize anyone accused of being a terrorist to horrific levels.
It is my belief that many of us realize we were manipulated by the rhetoric of War on Terror but find it a lot harder to look back before the War on Terror with the same clarity.
Hope you understand
Absolutely I do. And I hope you forgive me if I've said anything too ignorant.
I really am doing my best to inform myself. As soon as I saw your comment I skimmed a few articles about the events you listed and I could tell you put effort into it.
Honestly, this interaction renewed my faith in humanity a little. I'm going to try to put more effort in to make sure I'm not blaming anyone I shouldn't while defending my "side". Thanks :)
In spite of your bad faith arguments in this thread I do intend to look into this list.
It was not my intention although I can totally understand why it appears that way.
I plan to look into Arafat next. Followed by the events listed by E.B.Y.W. @ lemmy.word
If I moved into your house without permission and told you I'll bomb the shit out of you if you look at me funny you wouldn't accept it right away either.
It's not a double standard if I also say it's bad when my country does it.
But by any actual metric you know Israel kills way more children than Palestine. 36x more to be exact (between 2008-2020 cuz those are the numbers I could find)
I appreciate the clarification. ~~I posted the same comment in another thread and got some good feedback there too.~~ It was this thread.
I think "terrorist" is a loaded word and I wanted to understand the context because I'm very familiar with the US's history of using the word "terrorist" as a cudgel.
And our history of inserting ourselves, refusing to work with the local democratically elected government, setting up our own candidate in the race and... uh sometimes assassinating the opposition if it looks like the plant isn't going to win. (see Jacobo Arbenz, Mohammad Mosaddeq, Salvador Allende, if you want more listen to "same thing" by Flobots but make sure to verify things after)
But my goal isn't to say Hamas good Israel bad (although I very much laid it all on Netanyahu). My goal was to see if I could absolve Hamas of the "terrorist" label from the US. Without that label it's a lot easier to see the true story of Palestine.
But in the interest of staying focused on how this is a problem with Netanyahu and not the Israeli people I wanna say there were several peace talks brought to my attention (several or most involving Bibi) in the thread that I still need to dig into. And I do intend to keep reading so I can speak more accurately on the topic.
What sort of reply is that to what he said?
An honest one. There's violence everywhere. At least Palestinians and Israelis are fighting each other over land. In America you get shot over a cheeseburger or because someone else can't get laid.
When someone calls the USA out on their school shootings, do you then bring up Ukraine with many more dead?
No, I say "yeah it's unacceptable."
I’m sorry is Hamas Aqua-Man now? Wtf does proximity to the ocean have to do with anything?