fluffplush

joined 1 year ago
 

Over the centuries humans have folded themselves into power structures that benefit the few at the expense of the many. In the same way that the imperialist subjugates and exploits the third world and the capitalist exploits the worker, the human has positioned itself at the top of an explotative and murderous relationship to nonhuman animals. The beneficiaries of the status quo will emphasise their personal benefits, while refusing to acknowledge even so much as the existence, let alone the moral value, of their victims. When forced to engage with them, the justifications are often times the same - considering the outgroup to be deserving of oppression due to a perceived lack of valuable traits, be it intelligence, the ability to "contribute" to society or emotional "depth". If we let our morality only apply to our chosen ingroup rather than extending it to all sentient life, we will inadvertantly leave intact the same unjust power structures we readily criticise in the rest of society. Working towards a life that doesn't contribute to animal exploitation is not just possible but necessary. Go vegan.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said "for any reason at all". I said killing innocents against their will is wrong. I'm not necessarily opposed to all forms of euthanasia. A sterilisation program would not be worse than slaughtering countless individuals and neither would be reintroducing predators that you hunted to extinction.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't have to kill them to protect the environment and what you say about hunters as efficient and precise killers is incongruent with existing statistics. "I support going vegan" - are you vegan then? Clinging to a violent status quo while refusing to even so much as acknowledge the moral worth of its victims, because you feel as though they are so beneath you that you can take their lives and their bodies at will, is not something I would expect from a leftist, or even a decent person to begin with. Bad take.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So you're saying that we shouldn't kill individuals based on how much they destroy the environment actually. Not being native doesn't warrant execution and neither does being numerous. Some places have programs for neutering certain problematic species and while I would be careful about condoning those programs it certainly beat being shot and bleeding to death.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You could try and reintroduce the predators that were hunted instead of hunting more. And that doesn't address the point of killing innocents for what, the environment? If environmental damage is a reason to kill someone wouldn't humans be top of the list?

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hunting still purposefully kills individuals who don't want to die. "Population control" wouldn't be necessary if hunting organisations didn't purposefully increase populations in order to have more to hunt. And eating their flesh is necessary in what way? Why not leave it to the wild animals then?

 

Since purchasing and consuming animal products both depends on and contributes to animal agriculture, and animal farming necessitates rights violations against nonhuman animals, not being vegan when you have the option is synonymous with support for injustice. I believe that as leftists who purport ourselves to strive towards a more just society, and as human beings who generally value nonviolence and compassion, we should hold ourselves to a standard that doesn't allow for the perpetuation of mass-slaughter. Let's discourse!

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Had some random leftovers to throw in a pot 🙂

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Tomato soup (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by fluffplush@lemmy.world to c/veganhomecooks@lemmy.world
 

Tomato paste, water, some green beans, a carrot, a mushroom, half a red bell pepper and half a can of corn. Covered in Provençal herbs, pepper and lots of nooch.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cronometer ist ein ziemlich gutes Werkzeug, um Nährstoffmengen ausrechnen zu lassen. Am Anfang habe ich damit immer Mahlzeiten im Voraus geplant und nach einer Weile hatte ich das weitgehend genug verinnerlicht, dass ich jetzt nurnoch bei neuen Zutaten nachsehe. Die andere Ressource, die mir sehr geholfen hat, ist Nutritionfacts.org auf YouTube. Die konzentrieren sich meistens auf einzelne Zutaten und ihre Effekte auf den Metabolismus.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Das Problem am Töten Unschuldiger ist natürlich das Schlachthaus, also spritzt das Blut ab sofort auf der Wiese 👍

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's a group of probably mostly teenagers and upwards, mocking anti-vegan and pro-animal-abuse positions. It is very online tho, for sure.

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Are you aware how this community works? It's for satire of meatheadded talking points for vegans to enjoy and make fun of and everyone here is usually sarcastic. The point of this post is most likely to humorously showcase the flawed logic of people arguing that the abolishment of breeding animals would constitute a genocide.

 

Chickpea-noodles, steamed vegetables (broccoli, tomato, onion), hummus, pepper, tomato paste and cornsalad 🤤

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The alternative is not breeding living beings just to imprison and exploit them. Going extinct isn't "bad", especially when the alternative is what we currently inflict on them. That said, you can always support sanctuaries. You know those places taking in animals that specifically don't have a literal "meat-program"?

[–] fluffplush@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a peeled sweet potato, half a cup of red lentils, a leek, and a piece of a celery root shortly cooked and left to sit for 15 minutes in a simple vegetable broth. Then I added garlic, pepper, cilantro and turmeric.

 

It was tasty 🧡

 

Overnight oats with soymilk, hazelnut puree, broken flaxseeds, cinnamon, blueberries and an apple 🤤

 

Rice, kidney beans, kale, raw zucchini, tomato paste, hummus, turneric, garlic, pepper, dried onions, chives and nooch. 🥰

 

The issue is complex and there are no easy answers, therefore veganism can't be the answer. Also I can't live without flesh because my biology is special.

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