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Datacentres are indeed shooting up all over the place at an astonishing rate. I know, I'm involved in them. However I don't think they need such protection from the government - the companies building them already have enough money (and the datacentres themselves make a ton of money) that they don't really need handouts.

Delaware is where a lot of the Ukraine PrivatBank money laundering ended up being spent.

12 points, when you get that many it's usually referred to as "totting up", then you get a ban of at least 6 months (more if you've been banned in the last 3 years).

A regular speeding conviction is 3 points. However if you exceed 100mph in a 70mph motorway, or 30mph over other speed limits, then you may get an instant ban of up to 3 months or 4-6 points.

Points are valid on your license for 3 years, but stay on and must be disclosed to insurers for 4 years. Although, points for more serious offenses may last for longer. Some offenses lead to an instant ban, eg drink driving, and drink driving will stay on your licence for 10 years.

Did he already have 6 points? 5 points sounds like "we don't want to ban you, but if you do anything else you will be banned".

I, for one, wish the Greens would turn to violence over more of their issues.

Ahh I think you mean like the old idea of smoking break rooms

Yes pretty much. This was discussed and rejected in the UK when the smoking bans came in, however other places in Europe implemented indoor smoking just fine. As vaping is a lesser harm than smoking, and in particular vapors don't linger like smoke does, it should be easier to implement. But UK politicians wants to maintain a hardline ban in spite of any rational reasoning.

I dont think your analogy of driving a car fits

It was just the first thing that came to mind, which is why I threw in cycling as well. Cycling is often done for recreation rather than utility, but does still carry risk to others nearby. Cars also pollute, though, which is a similar harm to smoking, yet people are against outright banning combustion vehicles. It generally boils down to "I do it, and I shouldn't be banned, but I don't do that other thing so that should be banned."

For the record I don't even smoke, in fact tobacco smoke makes me feel sick. But I don't think people should be outright prohibited, not when a reasonable compromise can be reached.

I'm all for more study into the long term effects, and don't think that vaping is completely harmless or that it necessarily has positive effects. However nothing is truly harmless, and many people are considered well within their rights to do things that have the potential to cause harm to themselves - or even others. Driving, for example, carries a significant risk, and even cycling could create a situation where you crash into another person and injur them.

I just think that allowing vaping rooms indoors would be a better solution for everyone. People who vape get to keep warm, while people who want to breathe unrestricted air could find themselves better off because the vapers are indoors and out their way.

Unfortunately that's all anyone could really hope for from Starmer's Labour.

They are making the NHS worse, though. "Expansion of private contracts" is just privatisation with extra steps.

Car pollution fucks you up, too, probably more so. And before you say "people need cars to get places", nicotine (and caffeine) fuelled the industrial revolution - nicotine makes your brain work faster, which can make people more productive.

Yes in your own house, but not in your garden or with your windows open, because that's too close to me!

You sound ridiculous.

Vaccination in the past has been obligatory, eg for polio.

Vapes are already banned indoors in most places, basically everywhere smoking is banned. The issue with vapes is a lack of enforcement.

Frankly, I think vapes should be allowed in certain areas indoors, provided they are segregated from others. Vapes are drastically less unhealthy than smoking, to the point where being outside in the cold is probably a greater health risk.