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I cannot argue with someone so proud of their stupidity. Go for yourself.

Bernie couldn't win when it was just Democrats deciding amongst themselves.

The Democrats ran Bernie before, during a time that was much more favorable for a progressive candidate. Only then, his name was George McGovern and he got beat like a rented mule.

Progressives need to learn how few people in this country are willing to consider the notion of the possibility of thinking about letting their daughters date a progressive, much less elect one President. It's not enough to be right, if you're fucking stupid about the citizens of this country.

We can disagree about Bernie. I think it's deeply cynical of him to point the finger he's pointing.

You are very right about simple answers vs annoying complexity, and this is a systemic problem the Democrats will always face. Being based in reality and choosing to try to solve actual issues instead of simplified strawmen means the Democrats never will have an appealing story to tell, for most folks.

Not under Biden.

Clinton fucked the party over with NAFTA, and sided with big business. Biden did not: Biden did more for workers and the working class than any other President since FDR.

But he doesn't get credit for it, because people don't pay attention. They remember he ordered the railroad workers back to work, and say it proves he's anti-labor. They didn't really follow up on the fact that a few weeks later, his administration helped get them the new contract that gave them more paid sick days than they had originally asked for. But the story was long out of the news by then.

I can't stand idiot liberals who don't read past headlines and drift with the news wind.

Your links are trash, and I've already dealt with them.

Am I supposed to be sad that the Dems fought to keep RFK Jr from being a useful idiot for the GOP, and tried to stop him from siphoning votes? You know, the guy who is now going to run amok in the Trump administration with his deranged ideas about healthcare, as a thanks for his efforts?

Am I supposed to be sad that the Dems fought against Jill Stein, a widely-known Putin-funded tool for years and years?

Fuck no. It isn't a betrayal of the ideals of freedom, representation, and democracy to fight against obvious sabotage of the system. There are always fools like you who will do the GOP's work, and try to stop the Democrats from fighting them from perverting the system. You're a tool of your enemy and too dumb to know it.

There was nothing successful about this cycle. We live in a post-truth world, and it may be unfixable.

But pleasing the bulk of progressives (meaning idiot hippies who have nothing going on but attention for temporary media outrage) is not going to repair the Democrats. The Democrats can only succeed if there is a consensus reality, and there is no longer one.

You're thinking like one level deep, but the real issues are much more difficult.

Everything the GOP does makes them stronger, and everything the Democrats do makes them weaker. This is because exploiting things makes money, and defending things costs money. There's almost nothing the Democrats can do about any progressive issue that doesn't also create huge numbers of Republicans, so pleasing progressives is generally not the winning strategy you think it is.

I'm more interested in solving these problems than I could adequately explain, but you, like most progressives, think about goals and not strategies or ancillary outcomes.

Oh, my sweet summer child.

Read a book.

So full of shit. The Dems have been robustly defending your civil rights this whole fucking time. Go check the ACLU's legislative scorecards: you'll find virtually every Dem rep and senator with a 100% voting record aligned with the ACLU, and almost zero GOP pols with a 100% grade (I found one senator on the 2020 scorecard at 100%). Some GOP pols, like Josh Hawley, score 0%.

The Dems do the damned work, quietly and diligently. Unions saw their biggest gains in decades under Biden. Real wages rose under Biden, more than inflation, and rose highest for the bottom quintile. There hasn't been an administration in my lifetime (I'm 56) that has come close.

Young progressives are, for the most part, self-important shits that care more about posturing than actually knowing who is doing the most good for the most people, without conducting destructive purity tests on them. Young Progs don't show up for midterm votes, and didn't show up on Tuesday. Thanks for showing up in 2020, but what have you done for the world lately? Old fucks like me show up every goddamned time. Voting is a fucking duty, a bare minimum of effort that young progressives have to be wooed with flowers and candy into exerting. Go skip classes in a tent on the school quad without resulting in ANY CHANGE AT ALL, and preen for your Insta friends.

Yeah, Dems are going to fight against spoilers propped up by the GOP.

You're an idiot to think they were anything aside from that.

As for Cornell West, https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cornel-west-donation-harlan-crow-1234857237/

That's bullshit. Dems win when turnout is larger. Turnout was significantly below 2020.

Dems have learned to never nominate a woman again, because this country is so fucking sexist.