Cavalarrr

joined 1 year ago
 

Hey kbinMeta.

Given the news that beehaw.org are defederating from two of the largest Lemmy instances due to issues with moderation, I thought it may be worth @ernest considering closing registrations here, for a while at least.
I've seen that a handful of other kbin instances have been spun up, however, kbin.social currently dwarfs their user numbers. kbin.social is currently sat at over 28,000 registered users, with the next highest, fedia.io sitting at around 3,000 users. I may be incorrect on this, but as far as I'm currently aware, @ernest is the only admin, I believe he may have mentioned that he's taken a couple of additional trusted users on board, but at this time, I can't find receipts to back that up, however, I am aware of the immense pressure that @ernest is in to keep things not only running smoothly, but also moving forward.

The workload overwhelmed me, and I couldn't read all your messages.

This is in relation to account deletion requests alone, and understandably, this explosion in popularity and userbase was not only unexpected for @ernest, but possibly also for the platform itself:

Kbin was designed with small instances in mind.

~~Apparently fedia.io have already disabled open resgistrations due to usercount~~, (although that may be unverified, as this post from the fedia.io admin doesn't suggest that, but still food for thought.). [This is not the case, they just aren't federating, as confirmed by Jerry, thanks! I think Jerry's comment is still very relevant to the topic at hand, however.]

Now, I've already seen a handful of comments denigrating beehaw.org from some of the defederated site users, as well as users local to kbin.social whose accounts were made after the defederation. This is more than likely to result in kbin.social also being defederated from beehaw.org, if not others. I completely understand that this is the nature of the fediverse, and that no one instance is going to be completely open with every other instance, however, I think it's worth considering that we "have our own house in order", namely in the shape of more site-wide moderation, instead of keeping the floodgates open for every reddit refugee or otherwise.

I'm well aware that many may disagree with this, but I think it's something to consider.

Edit: Edited title of post. I just want to clarify, I don't mean close registrations for good, just while things calm down a little bit / ernest has chance to get a solid moderation / admin team in place.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, I think there's an issue with the obfuscation / blurring on a lot of the NSFW posts, i.e. people are tagging their post as adult only, but the thumbnail still shows "in all it's glory", I'll add an example below (don't worry, I'll still obfuscate):

Obfuscation not working properly (SFW)

I also feel like the blur isn't aggressive enough for some posts I've seen; I'd prefer something less... subtle... Sync for Reddit would just straight up show you a red box as the preview unless you went into the post.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

well taking up the whole thread is not an issue or is it? I quite enjoy talking with you to be honnest.

If the thread is relevant to the topic at hand, then no, and I think this is relevant.

you could have just ignored them and do nothing.

I could have, but I chose to downvote a handful of comments that I didn't think were adding anything to the discussion, and I felt could have been seen on any top 100 reddit thread.

but I understand that we don't share the same value as what downvoting mean, and I'm ok with that.

I'm ok with that as well, and I appreciate that we can have a civil discussion about it. Like I've already said, it wasn't a personal attack or me saying "shut up". If I wanted to do that, I'd have commented that, and likely been deservedly downvoted into oblivion, because that's just not productive.

Edit; My first reply sounds a bit authoritarian, I think, and that's not what I want to convey- I'm not saying there can't be discussions that slowly veer off the topic of the post, but at the same time, if you're clicking into post comments, you don't want the first thing you see to be a 50 comment chain that winds up in a heated name calling argument, or two people just talking about PS1 emulators on your @knitting post, especially when there's no way to collapse comments currently (officially).

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I understand what you're saying, but at the time, would you have rather I replied to each of the comments with 'I disagree', 'I don't like this', etc? That's just opening things up for unnecessary arguments that end up taking over a whole thread, which is sort of what's happening now.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Myself, and a handful of users by the looks of it, disagreed with the content of some of your posts, or thought it wasn't relevant / contributing to the discussion. I certainly didn't downvote the entirety of your contribution to that thread, and I don't intend for you to think it's a personal attack.

If you'd like to have a discourse on why I downvoted 4 of your comments, I, like many others aren't looking for the 'redditification' of another site, regardless of how similar the premise might be, and that's what I felt those comments were promoting, particularly 'gesundheit'. I understand wanting things to be 'just as good as they were', etc., but this is new, things can be better, and I personally don't want to see the site become reddit 2.0 just because there's been a big influx of users after the blackout started. You're entitled to want kbin.social to become something else, of course, and that's arguably what the voting system is there for.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (19 children)

People are allowed to disagree with things, although I understand if someone is just spamming the entirety of a thread with downvotes for no appreciable reason.
I'm in agreement with @eatmoregreenfood, that displaying your votes should be opt in, if available on the front end at all.
On a social basis, I don't think it matters; Whilst it would be preferable that someone explains why they disagree with something (assuming it is actually a disagreement, and not just malicious), I don't think anyone should be fearful of downvoting because the OP might call them out on it and expect them to explain, or forever see nothing from that user again. Disagreement isn't inherently negative.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

@watchdog Is there really anything wrong with 'users'? Especially when half the point of federated instances is that you're going to be interacting with people that aren't on a server called the same thing as yours, nevermind even using the same backend. E.g. fedia.io is called fedia.io, but it's still using kbin. Do they want to be called 'kbinauts'? No one using a Lemmy-based instance is going to refer to themselves as a 'kbinaut'.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We've all missed the memo, I just found out it's officially the kawaii boys international network.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I thought it was just an abbreviation of the original Polish site, karab.in (which would also explain why 'subreddits' are called magazines, karabin = rifle). Either way, that's pretty seamless inspiration.

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Slightly off topic, but why are we saying 'kee'binetters? Where is the 'kee' in kbin?

[–] Cavalarrr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hear hear!
I never really contributed much to reddit, as usually you had the people that perpetually watched twitter / news sources / new reddit posts getting in first, to the point where there wasn't a whole lot of point getting involved outside of voting, because someone else has already said whatever you were about to.
Here though, I'm itching to contribute and get the ball rolling on magazines. Just a shame the performance issues are hampering that, haha!