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Why are only SOME communities inaccessible on lemmy.world? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 5 months ago by dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I can access c/world on lemmy.world without problem:

lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/world@lemmy.world

But I cannot access c/whatstheword:

lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/whatstheword@lemmy.world

It seems unlikely that this specific and innocent community is blocked on either instance.

What's going on here?

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[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

And now I suddenly can. Was something tweaked by the admins?

I also couldn't search for the said community. Now that is also resolved. Very very odd.

EDIT: interestingly, from the instance lemdro.id the said community is also inaccessible

[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you're the first person from your instance to interact with a remote community, it takes a moment for it to sync.

also keep in mind that lemmy.world is too fucking big, so they're very slow to talk to.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

how do I interact with a community I cannot connect to? Would I need to manipulate the URL in order to "access" it, although this gives the error page not found, of course. (Not the best method of poking another community.)

But that's interesting that it takes some time to sync or whatever. Unfortunately, this immediately creates the illusion that some communities don't exist, and causes people to create a double community. This just happened to me. I created c/whatstheword on my instance...

[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

how do I interact with a community I cannot connect to?

are you using the website, or an app? i can see the community, ~~but not the posts (presumably because they aren't synced)~~ (forgot i have lemmy.world blocked).

do you not see the community landing page at all? is there no 'subscribe' button? subscribing is the best way to trigger the sync job; i could try doing it for you, but i want to see if it's possible for you to do it first.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You cannot see the posts? There are only two posts. Are you sure

[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

whoops, i forgot i have lemmy.world blocked. i don't see comments or posts from that instance.

still tho, i wasn't getting the undiscovered 404 on dbzer0.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

there was no subscribe button. Now it's working, as per top comment. On lemdro.id it is still unreachable: copy and paste the following in your browser (do not click, it may be split into two, which is hardly noticeable) https://lemdro.id/c/whatstheword@lemmy.world

EDIT: browser, FF

[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

i don't know about lemdroid. federation could be backlogged for aforementioned reasons.

the link you gave works fine for me in Firefox: clicking, dragging or pasting. the 404 likely indicates that lemdroid hasn't discovered that community yet; probably because it's still waiting to finish asking lemmy.world about it.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

are you sure about that? on FF if I click on the first part of the link it redirects me to lemdroid, but clicking the part after the /c/, redirects me to dbzer0. Also different part of the link lights-up when hovering over it

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

[removed by mod]

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yeah well I also don't wanna join a big and slow instance like lemmy.world. Also, the theming options on dbzer0 are the best.

But it seems like this problem won't ever go away for small instances, unless someone "pokes" it, i.e. goes to the community. (Subscribing is kinda hard considering it's still inaccessible)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean a solution would be a bot that just crawled World and subscribed to anything with more than X users/posts/whatever.

Then it would pull all those communities into your instances feed.

At least I think? I'm like 90% sure that's how it works.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

rather want a solution involving changes in the code of lemmyverse itself, if I could be so ego

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol, what? db0 is a medium sized instance ran by one of the former /r/piracy admins when they jumped ship during the exodus, and it's reasonably active with a decent amount of real users and a very active owner.

World is by far the largest instance by a huge margin. It is such an outlier that it effectively should be disregarded in comparisons with other instances.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

one of the former /r/piracy admin who? @db0? thats wild

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

I was the top mod in-fact ;)

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re on a small instance where most of the users I see are brand new troll accounts

You wanna back up that statement with a fact or two?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's an example example from your post history

https://lemmy.world/comment/10279387

You're saying that piracy is competition to record industries

Like sure, they're exploitive and greedy, but how the fuck can anyone compete with the exact same product but the price is zero?

Only a troll would present that as a valid opinion.

Same with selioning on a 3 day old comment, so obviously I'm blocking as soon as I hit submit.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol ok I get where you are coming from now, dipshit.

Edit: Commenter did not provide any supporting evidence for brand new troll accounts on our instance, because there aren't any. Clearly, they don't like piracy though, so I've done them a favor and removed dbzer0 from their feed.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Is that why my comments take hours to get replies? lemmy.world is too big?

[–] mmattq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try select "Undetermined" in language options.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

nah unfortunately that's not it