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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think transporters in star trek kill people, I just think they move them through subspace and the transporter malfunctions are subspace oddities

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

They shred your body down to its atoms, and re-assemble it somewhere else. If we have any sort of soul, or inner ghost, it almost certainly dies when your body is shredded.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

I feel like this requires a Gurgeh reference.

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 5 months ago (33 children)

I never understood the problem people seem to complain about here.
A perfect copy, is perfect. There's no detectable, no measurable, no identifiable difference.
So what are you talking about? Unless you don't think perfect is actually perfect.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the machine makes one such perfect copy of you without successfully dismantling you. That person stands in front of you. Do you see through their eyes? No. If you die, do they die too? Of course not. It doesn't matter how perfect the copy they are, they are not the same person as you. If the biological processes in your body end, you die. The you that steps into these teleportation machines never gets to see what happens on the other side of them.

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 5 months ago

And that happens naturally all the time.
The person you were yesterday, or even a minute ago, never gets to see who you are now.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago (14 children)

A copy isn't you, it's someone else, a clone. It means you die when you step into the teleporter and someone else takes over your life.

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[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because you won’t be the copy, the copy will be the copy.

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From the copies point of view, it is you.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

But I'm not looking from my copy's point of view, am I? And if you posit that I may be the copy in the first place, then the original isn't looking from my point of view.

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[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I'm on the fence: pro-transporter, anti-disintegration. If transporter technology existed without the suicide booth aspect and I could just send a copy of myself halfway around the globe in an instant I'd do it. Biggest problem I see is funding all the new clones of me running around. If there was somehow a way for us all to sync our memories occasionally without melting our consciousness that would be cool too.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Fuck it, kill me. My mind is the part I care about anyway. If you get that where it's going, I'm not bothered. You could even make some improvements on my meat housing before you replicate the next one, I don't mind. Go wild

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