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Trump causes confusion by sharing meme calling Jan 6 a ‘government staged riot’ even though he was in power (www.independent.co.uk)
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The meme has been liked nearly 9,000 times and shared 2,400 times as of Monday. In reaction to Mr Trump’s repost, journalist Aaron Rupar sarcastically wrote on Twitter: “rubbing my last 2 brain cells together as I try to remember who ran the government on January 6.”

The former president shared the meme despite a House committee that investigated January 6 declaring Mr Trump the “central cause” of the day’s events. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the House panel wrote in its final report.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, technically, yeah... if by "the Government" you mean "the President".

From tweeting on December 19th: "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there! Will be wild!"

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/1111341161/how-trumps-will-be-wild-tweet-drew-rioters-to-the-capitol-on-jan-6

To the actual speech that day demanding they take back the government and that he would march with them...

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

"Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated."

or:

"And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."

ending with:

"We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."

So... Trump lured everyone there 1/2 a month ahead of time, gave a speech telling everyone that you have to be strong and fight or you won't have a country anymore, then turned everyone loose on Congress...

"bUt It WaS ThE GOveRnMenT!!"

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But, can anyone ever really prove that Trump was the president?

🤔

[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah! Was he Donald Trump -- the person -- president? Or was it "Donald Trump" the legal entity? Is his name capitalized on the documents? Was his presidency valid under maritime law?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That'd explain why he's so into birth/berth certificates. Then there's this photo:

Gold fringes!

[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gold fringes on the flag of the country "Donald Trump" was president of? Damn it! We've been bamboozled! We aren't even living in the real United States! We were the sheeple all along, just like they were trying to tell us!

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

His name is an anagram for "L pond mud rat". That park is only about 2 hours from D.C., maybe there's a clue to be uncovered there. Going to need some more yarn and pushpins for my bulletin board to put it all together and it could just be an old rant dump.

[–] Fordiman@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that technically count as a confession?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not technically, that is a confession.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump's Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.

Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]

STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.

He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it confusing when he is honest or what? I don’t get it. Even a broken clock can be right twice per day.

Trump and other republicans in government power staged an attempted coups on Jan 6. It’s not a conspiracy theory or anything, I didn’t even realize this was debated, it’s literally what happened.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It’s “debated” (and I use that term very loosely) because the current US Fascist Republican party and its voter base need to keep gaslighting the general public about what actually happened on Jan 6.

Like, any rational person knows that Jan 6 was obviously an insurrection attempt, which I like to think is the majority of the US - but apparently there’s a very vocal sect of citizens who would be pretty okay with a fascist state so long as it’s branded with a big red R.

[–] matsubass24@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a little more complicated than that.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPfRGJRMbN8

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy raped E Jean Carroll and his cult worshipers don't care.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it hard to imagine she's the only one. Given what he himself has said regarding attractive women, about interacting with women he's attracted to, etc. I'm not going to be surprised at all if more people come forward with allegations at some point

[–] PolarPerspective@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, keep in mind how much footage there was of the capitol police letting "rioters" in and escorting them throughout the building as if they were on tour. I remember reading that there were opportunities to shore up the area out of concern there would be riots, since it was fairly obvious that there was going to be discontent, but the democrats declined.

I will make the standard disavowal that the riots shouldn't have happened, and those involved should be charged and prosecuted accordingly. But Trump very specifically said to protest peacefully during his speech that day.

My take on all of this has always been that the establishment hates Trump, sees him as a legitimate threat to their way of doing business, and have always exaggerated and highlighted anything they could to make him look like the most evil and incompetent person possible. I don't think you could neutrally look at all the evidence and think otherwise. I was a Democrat supporter before Trump came along. When I saw how united and unfair the portrayal of the man was by democrats and mass media, I realized the extent of corruption in the system, and more was slowly revealed over the next decade.

They want you to hate anyone who would upset the status quo. It's the same thing they did to Tulsi Gabbard. Anyone who is anti-war, pro-America, and is for populism and against globalism. Just watch for yourself. These people get fat off of selling Americans out to foreign interests and by feeding the war machine. They can't do that if we stop playing world police and start focusing on initiatives that improve the value of local labor. It requires us to rip up free trade deals and to stop funding military and PMCs, where a lot of elites make big money. That's why populists get shut out.

Jan 6 was a handful of people doing something stupid. They've turned it into a giant cross to lay on the entire moderate and conservative voter base. If you think that's reasonable, you're being tribal, not rational.