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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 154 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone's arguing about whether or not the main character should be black while forgetting the more important point: Ubisoft is trash, and we shouldn't be buying their uninspired shovelware anyway.

[-] Nom@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

The other commenters don't seem to understand the difference between boycotting and gatekeeping...

I'm with you man, I haven't bought any Ubisoft stuff for over 10 years now. And the more I learned the more I got surprised by how shovelware can be made even worse.

The last Ubisoft game was Assassin’s Creed 3, right?

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[-] pyrflie@lemm.ee 66 points 2 weeks ago

I beat an ancient Egyptian god to death with a Q-tip. Any claim Assassin's Creed might have had to approximating historical accuracy died several games ago even if we ignore the Ancient Aliens bullshit that's been around since the begining.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wasn't the original premise that you were a dude in the present using a time machine to explore "genetic memory" in a real time simulation in order to find the ark of the covenant or spear of destiny or someshit for the Illuminati?

[-] pyrflie@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Correct, they were looking for the "apple of eden" (golden orb from the first few games). It gets revealed by the end of the Renaissance arc that objects they are looking for are technological remnants of an ancient civilization that created humans as a slave race by stripping out parts of their own genetic code. It's a bastardized version Sichin's Ancient Aliens "theory".

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I think they crammed "becuz aliens" in there a few games later to explain away all the magic.

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I was guessing this was about Ghost of Tsushima since it just released on PC. Is his an assassin creed thing?

[-] pyrflie@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's for the new AC Shadows trailer, one of the main characters is a black samurai.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ah ok thanks. Good on Ubisoft I guess? Black people are part of the world and deserve to be represented. I'm sad that this is a fucking point of contention.

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

Technically, they're only "Samurai" if they're produced in Nippon within the duration of the Kamakura Period through the Meiji Restoration. Otherwise they're just sparkling warrior-nobles.

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

You are thinking of 51% min of corn. And produced in Kentucky. Fuck, thats whiskey. I mean Whisky!

Bourbon, I was talking about bourbon.

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[-] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 39 points 2 weeks ago

Where was that "historically accurate" crowd when Keanu starred in 47 Ronin?!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Or Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia. Or Finn Jones as Iron Fist.

Or Ben Affleck as Antonio J. Mendez in Argo, ffs. A role practically made for your Pedro Pascal type actor.

Hell, Tom Cruise pretending to be Irish in Far and Away was awful enough just because of the bad accent.

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Iron fist is a white dude in the source material unlike the other examples.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh they were there lol.

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[-] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago

The argument is always the same. The CHUDS don't want to see black people, women, the gays, etc.

[-] Lurra@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Actually was expecting a Japanese man and woman to choose from.

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[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Wait there was a Black samurai? That's fucking awesome! I need to see more media about this

[-] Juice64@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yasuke’s a playable character in Samurai Warriors 5 As a fan of that game I’m confused to why people are suddenly upset that he exists

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago

i miss the days when people made video games, and they were good.

I'm not sure why people are expecting the character of the video game to make or break the entire video game.

It's a new assassins creed game, it's probably going to be ass, like the rest of them.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

animal well.

The medium is alive and well.

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[-] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

This is some of the worst discourse I’ve seen. I went to the latest Asmongold video about this topic and asked as many people as I could to explain how a black protagonist is pushing an agenda. Not replies. Guess it is hard to explain without claiming “not historically accurate” or just sounding like a white supremacist.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago

I gave up on Far Cry and Watchdogs not because the games were deteriorating with each iteration (they were / are) but because the sexual harrassment ring on which the upper management fed and HR silenced the victims made supporting the company untennable. At least for me.

Since then I've found alternative indie projects that have scratched some of those itches pretty well. I don't play Ubisoft, even those games I already ~~own~~ have licenses for.

[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I genuinely do not get why people get so angry about the color of a character's skin in a work of historical FICTION. I dgaf about things being historical accurate in my video games. Does the guy look cool? Yup he sure do. Is the game gonna be good? It's Ubisoft so probably not. But let's assume that it will be for arguments sake.

Why is it so important to you that the character not be black? Assassin's creed as a franchise has been around for like what? Almost two decades now? And in all that time we've basically played as only white characters (with some exceptions). I don't see anything wrong with increased representation in works of art or entertainment. The more representation we see in media for any minority group the less likely it will be for the kids that grow up playing these games to grow up as racist assholes. And if you belong to a minority group, seeing someone with your skin tone represented in media will make you less likely to grow up with internalized self loathing. Like you might if all you see in media is the white dude saving the day.

At the end of the day these are works of entertainment. Their purpose isn't historically accuracy. It's entertainment and escapism. If we can't escape racism in a fucking video game how tf are we supposed to prevent it in real life?

[-] tomkatt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude, these same folks flipped their shit when the default main character in Crackdown was black, way back in 2007. These idiots don't quit. I mean, we're talking about a game where you're a genetically engineered super-cop and had multiple choices of character race but their fragile egos were shattered because the default choice wasn't the white guy.

It's pathetic.

Mind you, I'm sure they were all fine and nodding their heads when Tom Cruise did the whole white savior thing in The Last Samurai.

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I know you're not op but I don't really engage with public gamer forums since gamergate. I don't need the idiotic, racist/sexist/whateverist takes. I just want to forgot about the world for a bit and talk to my friends about how cool the pixels looked at that one point in time. I can get that with my friend on discord.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it was common knowledge that "retainer" was literally the job description of all samurai... but I guess I should have known that the Weaboo Gamergate Brigade would conveniently ignore actual history.

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[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

G*mers: Not even once

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