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I’ve seen this too much in the media and other places, and I am kinda sick of seeing people get unfairly criticized or sidelined.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In a vacuum, I wouldn't consider "diversity hire" to be a slur. However, in colloquial use by racists and bigots, it is definitely used as such much in the same way they have appropriated "DEI" as a slur.

To clarify, I mean the terms themselves used in the proper context. Calling someone a diversity hire, DEI hire, affirmative action hire, etc is 100% appropriating those terms as slurs because it calls into question the target's qualifications by insinuating they were only hired to tick a box.

why don’t we question the competence or qualifications of non-POC hires? Like why are non-POC hires not “cronyism hire” or “familiarity hire”?

We totally do:

  • Familiarity hire: We call those 'nepo babies' or something related to nepotism.
  • Cronyism Hire: Not sure there's a single term for it, but I (and probably others I'd imagine) just literally call them "cronies".
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are, it's called "Nepotism".

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

But nepotism only relates to family or friends, I believe. Not necessarily to someone who’s unrelated. That’s why I suggested the term “familiarity hire” or “cronyism hire”

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

The phrase "diversity hire" implies that they were not hired for their abilities. It attacks the person looking for a job rather than one making the hiring decision. So yes, it is a slur.

The purpose of phrases like "diversity hire" is to dehumanize and marginalize without ever having to learn anything about the person you don't like and you won't bring about inclusion by embracing those tactics, but it is noticed and called out, but it is done as a conversation and against the individual doing the hiring, not against a group of people who were hired and did nothing wrong.

At least that has been my experience.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"We are all family in this company" -> We don't have non-white relatives.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We are all family

so youre going to treat me like shit and expect free work from me

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Now that is the bonus we promised on hire.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I am kinda sick of seeing people get unfairly criticized or sidelined

Just curious what you're going to do about it, if anything?

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hire POCs, raise awareness regarding double standards

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you “hire POCs” just to spite people who are opposed to diversity hiring, you are proving their point.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I didn’t say it would be done as a spite