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Cedar Point's response was pretty abysmal which is starting to be a trend it seems. First Aid released the guest after cleaning his wounds.... The next day he ended up in the ER and found out that he had a concussion.

If parks don't start prosecuting people who aren't responsible enough to properly secure their articles this problem is going to keep getting worse. There is very little incentive to follow rules when parks generally don't seem to take action when the rules are broken..... Charging people for lockers and removing platform bins make this problem worse (although not an excuse for Maverick which still does have bins). To be clear, this isn't Cedar Point's fault but they do have a responsibility to take action against those that broke the rules..... Likely they'll just remove the bins from Maverick and punish everyone following the rules while the culprit goes free.

Bottom line is if you start showing others that you're in serious trouble if you don't secure your articles then people will start taking this seriously. They have no reason to care otherwise.

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cedar Point is at fault. It's up to them to provide safe operation of their rides. I've been on rides at other parks that provided free lockers and then made you go through metal detectors to ensure you didn't have your phone, keys, change because someone could get hurt. CP needs to take necessary steps to ensure the same.

[–] bobkmertz@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think they are at fault due to complacency and lack of focus..... Their goal of wringing money out of people for lockers adds to the danger that guests will disobey but ultimately if you do something unsafe on a ride that responsibility lays with you. I certainly didn't mean to imply that there isn't some shared responsibility when it comes to providing an environment that encourages good behavior. Cedar Fair's goals are completely wrong and off base.

[–] stooth64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite part of Universal Orlando was that the small lockers were free for all of the rides with park admission so there was no incentive to hold onto loose articles on the ride. We don’t need the full double-sided locker experience like with Steel Vengeance or Velocicoaster, but there should be some free locker access for at least the major rides where there is a significant safety risk.

[–] bobkmertz@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, with the way parks are pushing people to use their phones for many aspects of surviving in a theme park and the length of lines we face I think it's unreasonable to require someone to wait in the line without their phone.... And this is coming from someone that absolutely believes our reliance on phones is ridiculous.

But you did hit the nail on the head..... However you do it, it has to be free. It's ridiculous that parks charge you high rates for admission and then sill nickle and dime you once you're in the park and it's egregious when they put you in a position that you have to pay money in order to follow the rules that pertain to safety.

[–] stooth64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s true too. At least from a ticketing standpoint, Universal provides temporary locker passes in case your park ticket is on your phone (or in my case, my printed ticket got destroyed by Dudley Do-Right’s Ripsaw Falls 😅).

The best setup is where the lockers are in the queue to minimize time away from phones if they are needed. That being said, I didn’t feel like I needed mine even in the longer line for the Hagrid coaster where lockers were before the queue line. Lockers also help speed up operations since you don’t have to wait for people to put items in bins.

[–] bobkmertz@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm usually ok without my phone when I'm by myself but often times when you're at a park with a group/family there's a lot of synchronizing that needs to happen..... The group may split up so being able to tell someone "I'm close to the station" or whatever the case may be can help a ton when the other part of your group finishes their ride and wants to know if they should fit in another....... There's of course the conversations that comeup that require RCDB so that's also an aspect 😂

[–] Galaghan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like First Aid did what it should do, provide first aid. You can only speculate what happened after that but they would either send you off or call an ambulance. It's perfectly possible the guest said 'nah I'm fine for now I'll just go home'. First Aid are medics at best, not doctors.

What First Aid of the park have done, according to you?

[–] bobkmertz@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is possible that the guest ignored medical instructions and that is on him if it is the case..... but first aid and head injury has to lead to follow up care. Calling an ambulance is ideal but, even in that absence, Cedar Fair actively encouraged the guest to stay in the park by giving him food, etc, which is the exact opposite of what they should be doing.

[–] Galaghan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My point was that this is all 100% speculation and people shouldn't trip on their own presumptions.