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I'm in the post-ban blackpilled mode right no so please forgive me. I know reddit is falling apart but it isn't happening fast enough. Is there any hope that the whole site will be destroyed? I really just want the whole site / app completely destroyed and thew Vichyite mods unable to have their power trips anymore.

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[–] ezmack@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I say this with all sincerity; log off. Just for a bit to reset your relationship with sites like reddit. If you do you won't care what happens on reddit

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I left the site when they announced the API changes and honestly it's kind of like coming down off of a drug. I was so used to filling my free time by just Doom scrolling through Reddit and without rif to make it easy for me it just isn't worth the effort. I'm not going to use their shitty app, I'm not going to browse their mobile site, and I'm not going to support a company that doesn't listen to its users.

I don't use Facebook or any meta products for that reason.

I don't shop at Walmart for similar reasons. I don't shop at Amazon for similar reasons. I don't shop at home Depot for similar reasons. Vote with your wallet, vote with your time, and that's not just at the polls but in your daily life.

You may be a drop in the bucket but don't be a drop in a bucket of gasoline when the world is already on fire.

[–] MonkeyScryer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thanks. You're right. I don't have much of an option since I got the 7 day ban for calling the mods "pigs" and "cowards" for permabanning me from a subreddit. I need to touch grass, delete that account so Spez has less numbers, and then build up stuff on here.

[–] ijustdoeyes@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I think we're missing a bit of context here.

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Mods may "work for free", but they sure get a kick with powertripping. Fuck them, just like admins and Spez.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I got a permaban for "abusing the report button", and you only got seven days for directly insulting the mods? This punishments aren't even dished out in any sensical way.

[–] ezmack@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yup I've been there. Any kind of ban or forum closing sucks just take a beat so you're not all worked up

[–] fearout@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

It’s too big to actually die. Like, even Digg is still somewhat around.

But my guess is I’ll continue to enshittify itself as time passes and will probably exist for quite some time as a husk of its former self. It’ll still have a lot of users, but it will lack a lot of content and the sense of community it once had.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh... It's only a website. Believe me you'll get over it quicker than you think. I go back to it every now and then to check up on some old subs and I can't believe how much time I wasted on there.

[–] JonEFive@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm more satisfied with my experience here personally. I don't scroll for hours, I read a couple articles, maybe comment on them and move on. If I come across something interesting that isn't already posted in my community here, I'll actually post it because it might actually get some engagement.

One reddit, my post would either be removed by overzealous mods or generally ignored. I had one instance where I posted a question on r/askScience. I searched before I posted but couldn't find a post that asked the same question. A mod removed it saying that it was too similar to other posts. When I asked which post it was similar to, the mod said "You need to search for yourself, we aren't librarians" then muted me for 10 days so I couldn't respond. The sheer ego trip of the matter just appalled me. I thought that a community about scientific inquiry would be a bit more open, but nope - just as toxic as every other sub.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm more satisfied with my experience here personally. I don't scroll for hours, I read a couple articles, maybe comment on them and move on. If I come across something interesting that isn't already posted in my community here, I'll actually post it because it might actually get some engagement.

This sums up my experience pretty well too. If I post something, it tends to get a good conversation going, which is nice. But overall I spend a lot less time. I read 3 books last month on my phone using the time I would usually spent on Reddit.

[–] Temperche@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say the only downside that I start feeling in the last days that especially in niche communities, there are hardly any comments or posts aside from my own. Feels a little lonely.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I honestly think Reddit is going to do just fine over time to the dismay of a lot of people who left it behind. There are just too many people who don’t know, don’t care, or are just too lazy to bother with anything else. Clickbait gossip sites still draw from reddit for content and companies still use it for cheap PR. Reddit isn’t going anywhere.

I just don’t care. I’m liking Kbin more and more as it improves, and occasional visits to reddit only serve to remind me how much weight Apollo actually carried. This place gives me the sense of community I got out of reddit, and it does a good job of it without needing an app to make it bearable.

Plus, open source and federation is somewhat new and interesting to me, and I love how privacy-centric people in this community tend to be. It gives me a just little more faith in humanity.

[–] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 7 points 1 year ago

The best revenge is living well.

I said this a few times, but I was never kicked off of any website. I wasn't kicked off of facebook, I wasn't kicked off of linkedin, I wasn't kicked off of reddit, I wasn't kicked off of twitter. I left willingly because I could see the writing on the wall. What exactly is the point of a communications website that you can't communicate on?

Absolutely no desire to go back, but I do get a kick out of it whenever I see a post about a new batch of people waking up to the fact that big Tech isn't your friend. When they are going after your enemies, it might feel good but they're coming after you next. They are always coming after you next.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I’ve changed my mind in the last few weeks. I don’t want reddit to die. I want it to keep limping along so the idiots, trolls, and petty tyrants stay there.

[–] kvvy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it won't be destroyed. It just won't be what made it what it was.

[–] MonkeyScryer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It sucks that they won't face any sort of consequences for destroying a wonderful platform.

[–] JonEFive@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say a significant decrease in valuation just before IPO is some consequence. Not enough to truly impact Spez personally mind you, but it's something.

I think it could lead to a whole load of narcissistic rage to see his brilliant ideas backfire.

[–] MonkeyScryer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love to see the idiots who want to buy "shares of reddit" lol thinking they are investing in some amazing new tech.

[–] JonEFive@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Businesses valuations and a business' success overall unfortunately don't always correlate to what the business seemingly has to offer. In this case, reddit is not going to be sold as a community website, but rather a marketing tool.

It's as the saying goes - if the service is free, you're the product. I think there will be a decline in active users and overall engagement, which I suspect might lead to fewer ad impressions. Spez is banking on the fact that eliminating third party apps will make up for that.

So long as there is a critical mass of users - which there will be for the foreseeable future, and so long as Spez only goes half Musk and doesn't turn the site into an alt-right paradise, I see reddit potentially becoming profitable. Advertisers who have been scared away from Twitter/X might be looking to go somewhere safer and might find that in Reddit once all this controversy blows over.

And it will blow over in terms of relevance to advertisers. The API controversy doesn't concern the average person. Even a CEO being a petulant child is barely worth mentioning to most.

Reddit users assumed that the site was for them. Spez has made it clear that it is not, that it is for advertisers. As much as I hate to say it, there will be plenty of people jumping on the Reddit IPO from that perspective.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is an upgrade. So all harm done to reddit is a net gain

[–] Clovermite@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I haven't noticed a difference on reddit yet, community and content wise. I've been dipping my toe into migrating as I've seen two of the subreddits I'm part of setup on alternate fediverse instances (lemm.ee and sffa). So far, it's been rather disappointing though.

The federation hasn't seemed to work well on either platform, so this is the third account I've had to make in order to participate in a discussion.

I use straight up reddit on my desktop computer, I don't access it from my phone except in extremely rare circumstances, so the changes for third party apps don't really affect me. Part of me wants to show solidarity, but if I'm not going to get a remotely comparable experience, then I don't really have an incentive to quit Reddit. Many of the subreddits I'm interested in haven't made any migration that I'm aware of, and I didn't see substitutions for them in SFFA

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Is there any hope that the whole site will be destroyed?

Probably not. Twitter has done much worse shit and lost not even 10% of their MAU.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit isn't going to die... It's just going to become more like Facebook. The advertisers will love it because the people that remain will be the type of people that don't care about content quality or even repetitiveness, and actually look at ads because they don't care about what's being put in front of them to look at as long as somebody is pushing something in front of them to look at.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want spez to burn the servers down... And forget to leave the room before starting the fire.

[–] MonkeyScryer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LOL. Imagine Spez trapped with the servers when the Great Neckbeard Army insurrection happens.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately I'm sure Reddit has no shortage of waifu body pillows to defend themselves with.

I hope someone spills a cumjar on him.

[–] bonobo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's not going to completely die (soon), but it's lost what used to make it special/different. Just look at the posts topping the popular subs - it's a shadow of its former self. Unfortunately I can't see anything really replacing it either. Times have moved on, I guess...

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