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I saw a post in here that had a bug and wouldn't let me respond from my phone, but...

It was talking about paywalls for news sites. And this is literally the best one i know to get passed them. Just copy and paste.

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[–] sab@kbin.social 122 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While this is great for the one-off article in publications you rarely read, also keep in mind that journalism is expensive and the reason a lot of it is getting so bad these days is that nobody pays for it. So if you have money to spare, please consider having at least one proper subscription in a quality newspaper somewhere to support the integrity of journalism. :)

The Guardian is a good publication to consider as they don't have a paywall to begin with. That's a bold choice, and one I believe they should be rewarded for.

[–] psyqology 31 points 1 year ago

Also keep in mind that paying for news often leaves the poorer community without information. While yes, i agree that journalists should be compensated, news organisations have become profit seeking businesses since the 70s, and not, as they should be, places of information gathering for everyone.

A paywall prices poor people out of information. And things like this still help them.

The guardian should be lauded for their model yes, but that is one company. They can't write about everything.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was donating to the Guardian for a few years until my financial situation changed, is it much the same nowadays? It’s been a while, and in today’s world I feel like it’s much too easy to accidentally support bad actors (like if one joined or stayed in Twitter or Reddit today) just by lacking context.

I don’t read all that much international/English news, but when I do, it seems by habit I tend to just go to the guardian. But really wouldn’t want to support questionable ethics or stances.

[–] sab@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Beyond just generally enjoying their journalism, one of the journalists covering Ukraine for the Guardian is the husband of a friend of mine. So I get to see his dedication to his work from relatively close up, and makes it at least very clear to me that they're on a journalistic mission worth supporting.

I think any media outlet of that size (or any size, probably) can be criticized, and some of it will be valid. But that's just in the nature of the craft - it's a challenging field, and it's impossible not to make some mistakes. In my experience the Guardian remains committed to quality journalism, and they have some of the best people out there working for them.

[–] expresshermes@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

12ft was awesome but it doesn't work for medium posts. Would love to know if there any other good alternatives.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scribe.rip for Medium.

Just replace "Medium.com" or any Medium base URL with "Scribe.rip".

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not work anymore. Some article is permanent behind paywall, and required log in to preview.

So scribe will show partial content only as you preview.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also bended over to NYT. Cowards.

(If you start a site like this, you surely can count on that somebody will be after you. Host it in different country, pay with Bitcoin, hide your registrar data etc so they cannot sue you. If you cannot guarantee it, why start it?)

[–] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstand what 12ft.io's business model is -- they didn't bend over for the NYT, the NYT bent over for 12ft.io by paying them to exclude them from the service. Literally the whole point is to extort money from publications to get on the whitelist.

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[–] 15liam20@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think archive.ph works with Medium last I tried.

[–] psyqology 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I have noticed that 12ft.io is having problem with newer articles. Anything posted in the last 3 or 4 days seems to not have been scraped by whatever they are using or however they are using it. I've also seen some people say that they've taken money from corporations to not scrape articles. Now I don't know if that is true, but I will do some research and get back to this shortly.

[–] StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure they do take money, I've had some websites not work and it showed some sort of message. I forgot exactly what it said but it wasn't an error.

[–] tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use this https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-filters/-/raw/main/bpc-paywall-filter.txt works well for NYTimes. you just add this list to your favorite adblocker I use Firefox with Ublock

[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing.

[–] spicysoup@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if I can't get it to work with 12ft I go to archive.is and that always does the trick

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

archive.is has been down for more than a week now. archive.org doesn't seem to work as well (at least according to my experience). 12ft wall just gets paid by some news sites to get their site excluded. Is there anything that's still usable?

(Edit: Turns out 1.1.1.1 has been censoring my internet. I'll never trust them again.)

Btw, y'all still using this community? The "official" one that migrated from reddit is at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com and our community is bigger.

[–] pistachio@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to cloudflare adminsIt's a bit more complicated than 1.1.1.1 (Cloudflare DNS) censoring your internet, read here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828702

Archive.is’s authoritative DNS servers return bad results to 1.1.1.1 when we query them. I’ve proposed we just fix it on our end but our team, quite rightly, said that too would violate the integrity of DNS and the privacy and security promises we made to our users when we launched the service.

The archive.is owner has explained that he returns bad results to us because we don’t pass along the EDNS subnet information. This information leaks information about a requester’s IP and, in turn, sacrifices the privacy of users. This is especially problematic as we work to encrypt more DNS traffic since the request from Resolver to Authoritative DNS is typically unencrypted. We’re aware of real world examples where nationstate actors have monitored EDNS subnet information to track individuals, which was part of the motivation for the privacy and security policies of 1.1.1.1.

edit: So it's actually the other way around, it's the archive.is admin who's blocking people who use Cloudflare DNS, read also their tweet here https://twitter.com/archiveis/status/1018691421182791680

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Hypx@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@001100010010

@psyqology @spicysoup

It is likely blocking bots/crawlers, so it only looks down. https://archive.ph should still be working.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doesn't work for me. Where is your IP from? I'm in the US.

I've also tried Fennec, Firefox, and Chrome and also tried switching to mobile data. All fails.

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@001100010010

@psyqology @spicysoup

I'm also in the US. You must be blocked somewhere. If not your ISP or DNS server, then you must have it blocked locally.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What dns do you use? I use 1.1.1.1 with 8.8.8.8 as backup

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[–] Myrbolg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? They proclaim to free the world from pay walls, the just take the money? Hypocrites.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

You can still use archive.is or archive.ph. If you can't access those, it's likely a dns issue.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've noticed that a lot of right-leaning "journalism" is free and left leaning journalism has a pay wall.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the growth of the right.

[–] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually frightening how much is spent on right wing propaganda. I know there are whole businesses dedicated to posting on social media pretending to be genuine users. The last election in Illinois they mailed out fake newspapers with all kinds of nonsense in them. They even have country music tours that go to small towns with political messaging.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's scary how much money and power is intoxicating.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The us right is the local bourgeoisie and it’s propaganda is intended for everyone so everyone doesn’t climb over the fences and eat them alive. The us “left” is the national bourgeoisie and their propaganda is directed at their members and collaborators so as to maintain unity.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

At this point, we need to pull a page out of Iceland's book. They arrested their bankers over bailing them out. We need to do the same, only include politicians on the menu too.

[–] fades@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if that has anything to do with the growth of the right.

No doubt plays a role, but I'd say it has more to do with the media's obsession with getting paid. They are a business first and foremost, journalistic integrity be damned. They pushed stories they knew would get clicks without any regard to the facts or properly framing the issue.

Yeah pay walls don't help but they didn't cause the issues we're seeing. Those that follow the actual fake news that conservatives push weren't reading articles anyway, the paywall wasn't what kept them from reading and researching properly.

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[–] IndianaJones@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago
[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol all walls...except the NYT

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And IrishTimes.com also somehow

[–] volodymyr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Freedom of information should be a human right, it allows to build consensus crucial for social cohesion. A bit like open access in academia, which is getting more traction recently. But unless this right is guaranteed stealing from authors destroys knowledge industry as such. Except that maybe it helps to transform predatory business models.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just tried this on the first article I could click on for my local news page. It doesn’t work, just shows the article snippet like 13 times

Used to use them, but they often don't work, now I just use archive.today (they also offer an extension to quickly open the link there).

[–] huntr@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any idea about getting around this? It just gives an incomplete article.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/20/vr-is-dead/

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Use the extension mentioned in the above comments

You can usually get around them by clicking link and immediately turning your phones airplane mode on.

[–] IAmMohit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

If it can be unpaywalled, it can usually be found on https://archive.ph. If it’s not already there, you can always try saving the article you’re trying to see there.

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

My company wifi block https://12ft.io/ for security reason. fck

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