idk man i see that discord logo
whats that cube looking app with fdroid and obtainium?
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This bullshit comes up every five years or so and has done since the naughties. It goes like this.
- Government states they need a backdoor to encryption to stop terrorism/pedophilia.
- Privacy and tech groups say it's a bad idea, children's charities and anti-terrorist groups say it's a good idea.
- Someone in the Civil Service informs a top politician that if there is a backdoor, hackers will find a way in and that could mean leaks of things the government doesn't want the public to see like their affair with their intern or how they are doing to abolish devolution.
- They use an event to cover it up again.
- Next government, return to step one.
This has happened under Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss wasn't around long enough (lol), and now Sunak.
It's funny because Boris Johnson is currently using an encrypted phone to stop giving evidence to the Covid Enquiry (namely his WhatsApp messages, yes, the UK government uses fuckin' WhatsApp.
We keep telling them it won't work, that it will only put the data of law abiding citizens at risk, but they don't listen and they keep playing the same game over and over.
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That's one nice home screen. Shame we still have Discord tho
Yes, and I only use it for some Linux support groups, don't know why they are not on matrix.
So many open source projects on discord unfortunately
Because matrix is absolutely not there yet like lemmy and mastodon are.
I‘m an admin and a coder for roughly 20 yrs, yet it took me hours to understand matrix and elements. There is just not enough knowledge out there atm and the apps dont do a well enough job themselves imho.
Used matrix too. But for the next try I wait for dendrite is out of beta state. The bridges fucked me up. One reason I use beeper, lets doing the pros the fucked up bridges.
Makes sense. We‘ll see if matrix clients can catch up to the other two. Usability is what we need. Matrix has been around for a long time but so far I only see enthusiasts and privacy obsessed peeps talk about it. That needs to change.
If EU and others starts their hunt for breaking decryption, matrix could get more interesting. They wrote a blog article about being unable to break decryption of selfhosted instances.
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I don't get it
I think the implication is that they don't use anything from any of those companies. I see icons for Bitwarden, Nextcloud, and Lemmy. So they're probably a big selfhoster.
I'm pretty sure that's Mull rather than Lemmy. Just started using it and it's excellent!
Yes lemmy icons are on page 2. thats the mull badger not the Lemmur icon.
What is it?
It's a "more private/hardened" version of Firefox. Add-ons are possible as with Firefox Nightly.
From memory the UK gov is trying to (or has?) pass anti-encription laws targeting the big tech giants GAFAM (google, apple, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft). I am in Australia so not up to date with this.
Its hard to tell from the icon pack they are using but I think this might be a screenshot from a degoogle phone? For example I don't see any Facebook or Microsoft specific apps. But I do see a nextcloud app which is an open source self hostable replacement suite for Google's cloud apps.
Basically the law change won't affect them as they are not using any GAFAM apps/software.
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It's pretty hard to make open source developers all over the world comply with unreasonable demands of nation-states. Ditto locking down the national Internet to block people from accessing them. Even in North Korea it's hard, not impossible.
Maybe he thinks they need to find the app and open it on his phone?
Love this, funny how we have a lot of similar apps, but Discord stays on the bottom row, it's hard to get rid of.
Man I wish I could uninstall it. It's just plain spyware, at least from my point of view, but everyone uses it. I wanna be part of society too you know.
use revolt instead
I found it to be pretty difficult to get people to move to Revolt, more comparable with moving them away from regular social media than other messengers.
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Nobody I know uses Discord. It's an age/social circle thingy.
is there an alternative frontend for discord
There are alternative client for discord but you can get banned for using them soo ¯_ (ツ)_/¯
Do not be afraid! You have nothing to fear, for you have nothing to hide, do you? /s
You don't need to decrypt if it hasn't encrypted. (Discord)
What are you, some kind of terrorist?
Lol no. Just a privacy hardener. Idk it started with replacing all google stuff with nextcloud. And more and more I became free.
I might bite the bullet, and buy a Pixel tablet, to flash it with GrapheneOS. Lineage OS tablet support is pretty spotty lately. I use a Samsung SM-T720 that is doing well, but will die eventually.
Yes it's kind of annoying to buy a google phone to replace google. Lineage is good but they use some google stuff.
GrapheneOS are sticking to Google hardware for security features and upstream support. I'd rather wish for a maximum privacy platform that doesn't leak anything to Google. I'm currently not aware of anything like that.
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So they just come home with a warrant and take your unencrypted hard drive that's self hosting all that apps
You think its unencrypted? Hah, nice try.
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Is that Mull?
Yes
Ayyyy... Cheers mate... 🥂 I've been using Mull ever since Bromite got abandoned.
Graphene has vanadium, it's okay same (or better) like bromite. But it's chromium based, meh.
Did that godforsaken bill get passed yet?
Can someone give me a rundown of what those apps are?
Okay okay,
From up left:
Settings, K9-Mail, Tutanota, (Stores: GrapheneOS Store, Aurora Store, F-Droid Basic, Obtainium),
Simple Calendar, JTX, Aves Gallery, Camera,
OSMand~, Nextcloud, Immich, Paperless
Transportr, Nextcloud Bookmarks, Quillpad, Clock,
Termux, Bitwarden, Breezy Weather, Calc,
Material Files, ntfy, Simple X Chat, AdGuard Home (its a browser link)
Phone, Contacts, Mull, Discord, Beeper
My second page is full Lemmy Apps, haha.
For completion: wallpaper is one of KDEs Plasma 5.24 (maybe). And Icons are: Arcticons Dark. Android 13 Graphene OS.
I love Beeper, but the android app is so far behind the desktop app in terms of polish
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