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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 71 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Every day? Quality over quantity, Anon.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah. One video a day gets you practice in all sorts of skills you'll need if/when you start putting a lot of effort into the quality of the videos. Quality is only half the battle, dealing with deadlines and getting the hours in on the video making/editing programs is crucial.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Deadlines? What deadline is this person under?

And rushing through and firing out hastily edited videos isn't good practice for anything.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

A self-imposed deadline of making a new video by the end of every day. And rushing through videos absolutely is good practice for a handful of things. Especially if you've never edited video at all. It gives you practice just in opening the programs needed and navigating them. Even a hastily edited video is still an edited video that the person needed to learn many aspects of the software to edit. Also, seeing a project through from start to finish you quickly learn that there's a lot to do at the end of a project after the creative part.

Some of the most consistent advice from famous creative people is to start out like this. It's well known that starting with a massive ambitious project is a recipe for failure. IDK if you've ever tried to do something like this but it can be very intimidating just to begin if you feel like the first project you work on is personally important to you. Making mediocre videos every day gives you a stress free way to make something creative from start to finish.

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I guess they meant deadlines for sponsored videos or something

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

The cart is so far in front of the horse it's over the horizon, if that's the case.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You'd be surprised how quickly channels die once you stop putting out a video every week, 3 days, or whatever arbitrary number they or the algorithm is used to.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How many subscribers does your channel have?

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I dunno, 10 or something like that?

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I heard the algorithm rewards the opposite nowadays

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. The algorithm rewards making content that people watch, not shovelling out junk that only your mum wants to watch.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay but part of getting the algorithm to suggest your videos to people is to post consistently and often

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

If people actually watch them, sure. If nobody except your mum watches the whole video, it doesn't really matter how much you post.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

not always. i remember there used to be some pretty big channels that posted only every once in a while.

now it seems most of them put out lower effort stuff frequently, theres def been a shift.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Definitely not the case for me, you need to stop watching low effort slop.

I follow a few channels that only publish every other month, and they still get recommended to me as soon as they release. Slow Mo Guys is one example.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude legit lul. I have like 7 or 8 channels I follow that post maaaaybe once a month and they consistently get close to a million views. Let alone people like hbomberguy who posts like 3 or 4 videos a year and gets millions upon millions of views.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean that people that are already big and well known can post less often and still get views? Shocking

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

You don't get big and well known by posting shit videos though. YouTube is full of people who put out a quality video every month or so, just look at the Slow Mo Guys.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

recommend me a few, i barely watch youtube anymore outside a few interest news channels because most seem like junk to me.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I've been catching up on the Tally Ho build series lately, that's good value for money.

[–] DoYouNot@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I get your point, but if they're enjoying themself: Give 'em hell anon. Pump that stuff out. If you've got something to say, speak!

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Naw, Papa Pewds set the standard.

Record 3 videos a day. Post one of them and bank the rest.

Once you pop off and it gets overwhelming, take time off from time to time, but when you aren't taking time off, bank 5 videos a day, but just have 1 post every day. EVERY DAY. Same time. Humans LOVE consistency.

Its not the wrong approach.

Either way, you probably wont "pop off". But if your hope is that you will, act like you will.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That only works if you're making content worth watching though.

Get good, then get fast, is my opinion.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True.

The "pop off" part is in having a good formula.

If you put 700 videos of shit formula in the can, you have 700 shit videos, you're exhausted, and you will never pop off.

You rite.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Also, I'd rather take my time and create something I can be proud of.

There's not enough money in YouTube to do it any other way, in my view.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yea making videos that have some quality and originality works if you're actually trying and not just hoping you get lucky by being a douchbro who screams at stuff for kids to watch. Consistency over long periods of time seems to help too. I'm not talking just posting every day or week. Could be one video every 2 weeks or monthly. Just needa to be on a schedule that people can look forward to.

I have a channel that I've posted 3 videos on with no consistency and about wildly non related topics and they've each had like 500 to 600 views without me promoting anywhere cause it's stuff I find interesting or stuff people hadn't seen/considered before. Just takes a dozen hours of editing to make it easy on the eyes and understandable. I'm not even trying to YouTube, I just do it when it strikes my fancy.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I've done the same, posted a few videos I've made with no hope of ever getting monetized. Most of the people watching them are actually people who do same sport, and many I know personally, which is cool.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago

only for 30 days?

mate most channels ran for months if not years before they really took off.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I find it hard to believe that you only get one viewer on every video, unless your content is absolute garbage. If you are consistent and create content that is at least interesting to some viewers, you will eventually get at least few hundred views after few months on at least some of your videos. I speak from my own experience, and my videos weren't that great anyway, just had interesting idea I guess (although I eventually failed to upload further videos).

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago

unless your content is absolute garbage.

If you're filming, editing, and publishing a video, every day, for thirty days straight, that's probably the case.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Depends a lot on niche. I sometimes upload interesting Yu-Gi-Oh matches in Master Duel, and the highest viewcount is 32, from an upload December of last year. On the other hand, a low effort VTuber edit is sitting at 1400 views.

[–] isildun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some of that is content categorization in the eyes of the all-seeing algorithm. Let's say you upload a type of content "A" that gets big views but you've been uploading a type of content "B" that gets small views for a while. The youtube algorithm will aggressively try to grow content A and massively deprioritize content B, even among other channels that produce content B.

A guy I know who does youtube/twitch had to create a second channel for his content B because it would get sub-1k views when he would get tens of thousands of views on his content A. Just by uploading somewhere else he started to get higher view counts.

Exactly why that happens isn't known, but a common theory is that youtube wants to push what it knows works. They have no real reason to give your content B a chance because they know content A will sell. And they do this even though this outcome was the result of a feedback loop.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That may be a contributing factor, my most viewed stuff are a couple of anime clips sitting at hundreds of thousands of views, but niche is still the #1 explanation in my eyes, as even the big and successful Master Duel channels stay at only a couple thousand views per upload. There's just not enough people interested in certain types of content.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Ya, my videos are super niche. After almost 10 years I'm just now approaching 1000 subs. Granted I only started putting effort into my edits the last few years but still, it's tough out there.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Ratfucked by the algorithm lol

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i post absolute garbage 5 second clips of whatever I'm working on (literally zero effort made, zero fucks given) and every now and then they get like more than a thousand views

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I have actually made a few YouTube videos, and the shorter they are, the easier it is to get viewers, especially with a small channel. People are much more willing to give a one minute video a shot.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is me and my wife + my one fan with my Twitch lol

Managed to actually get some momentum on YouTube a few years ago and then ADHD fucked that so I recently started streaming to have that fun again, andy wife and one loyal fan are the ones there

NBD really, that's one more fan than most people so I'm a cool kid after all 😎

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Worst case scenario is you're hanging out with a wife and a pal having fun, sounds like a win.

[–] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

This is literally how my YouTube channel is